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 Welcome to the Lansdale Life Church podcast.

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 If you're seeking a closer relationship with Jesus Christ, this podcast is for you.

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 Thank you for joining us today.

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 All right, gentlemen.

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 We went a bit long on the fellowship. Sorry if you guys are tight with time, but we have a

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 real special speaker today. I've been pumping up this morning for the last couple weeks in church, and

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 you know, it was probably maybe five, six, nine months, you know how time flies.

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 But I was thinking like at times, you know, because there was a slither of time that we were actually contemplating

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 starting our church in New Hope. I don't know if you know this, yeah. Down in, if you know New Hope along the river,

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 down at the playhouse, you know, but, so then we just kept praying the Lord led us to Lansdale, right?

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 But over time, I just started thinking, you know, if you know New Hope, Pennsylvania, I'm sure Chuck will share a little bit more about this, but

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 New Hope, Pennsylvania is a beautiful part of Bucks County and the state.

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 If you've never been in New Hope, the town, it's just gorgeous. Tons of money.

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 I mean, you could not imagine how much real estate is in that little pocket of ground right along the Delaware River.

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 The construction is wonderful. It's just beautiful, right? And just gorgeous. What's that?

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 Historical, very historical, artistic. A lot of famous artists came from there.

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 But another thing is there's a lot of spiritual darkness. And over the years, churches have closed.

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 Churches have gone very woke and, and

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 watered down, if not apostatistic, if you want to call it a word.

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 But just a lot of things have taken place in that part of the, of the county.

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 And I was thinking, you know, I remember there was one guy who was preaching the straight up gospel and he was so hardcore true to the word of God.

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 He loved Jesus. I wonder if he's still, I kind of knew he was still somewhere.

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 So I reached out to him and, and we connected. I'm like, how are you surviving in New Hope, Pennsylvania, when every other

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 gospel preaching church has moved on, closed, and changed.

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 And through us getting together and talking, I learned a testimony about this guy that I never knew and it's just tremendous.

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 And I said, you know, I have to have him come out and share with the men on what's going on in Chuck Wilson's life and his family's life.

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 So without further ado, let's give it up to the Lord for Pastor Chuck Wilson.

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 All right. Well, thank you, Chris.

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 It's great to be here.

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 Great food, by the way.

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 Some of it, I wasn't sure, but it was really good.

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 I've never enjoyed a green drink before like that.

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 That was great.

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 So, yeah, it's great to be here.

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 I met Pastor Chris years ago.

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 You visited, you know, the church years and years.

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 Twenty five.

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 I met you and you visited and then we reconnected for lunch.

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 It was so great.

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 I have lots of friends in Calvary Chapel circles and a lot of our folks from our church are from Calvary Chapel is from farther away.

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 And then when we started, we're so similar and we might even end up with Calvary Chapel at some point.

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 So my wife and I started New Hope Community Church 25 years ago.

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 We have 13 children and I think there's a picture back there.

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 We have 13 children and now 12 grandchildren.

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 I think you have that picture too.

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 Twelve grandchildren.

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 So that's church growth.

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 That's the only way to do it in New Hope.

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 And it's crazy, right?

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 It's crazy to have that many kids anywhere, but especially in New Hope, because like you said, it's very expensive.

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 But so I'm going to share from the book of Joshua today about craziness, even crazier story, crazy steps of faith that I will apply to my life.

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 And I think it's going to be easy to apply to your lives too.

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 So let me just start with prayer.

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 Father, we thank you for the chance to all be here.

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 And we know we're here for a reason that your Holy Spirit wants to speak to us through your word.

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 So, uh, the title, I call this God's call to craziness, crazy steps of faith.

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 And the first one is in Joshua one verse 10, and I know that you got the verses behind me, but I'm going to read it here.

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 In Joshua one verse 10, have it marked.

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 So, uh, in Joshua one, one verse 10, Joshua commanded the officers of the people saying pass through the camp and command the people saying prepare provisions for yourselves for within three days.

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 You will cross over this Jordan to go into possess the land, which the Lord your God is giving you to possess.

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 I'm sure you know the story well with pastor Chris here, but they're ready to cross into the promised land.

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 Finally, the new generation, they're following Joshua into the land.

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 And this is what his very first command is that we're going to cross the Jordan and you couldn't, we, a lot of times we forget about this, but Joshua must've been thinking, God, are you kidding me?

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 My first command as the leader of the people here will be, might be my last one.

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 He had to be thinking that it'd be like the, like the president going, say, we're going to go help Ukraine.

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 I've several times seen the flood come over the streets of New Hope all the way up the whole town, completely flooded.

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 It was, you saw the movie Ten Commandments, Charlton Heston, right?

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 Is that all still up there?

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 Opposite Jericho, opposite Jericho.

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 The sins of Adam cut off all the ones that flowed.

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 It's all amazing, amazing prophetic pictures here.

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 That could be a whole nother week of sermons, but, but this took a lot of faith.

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 They would have stoned the guy.

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 They would all march back to Egypt.

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 It's, it was scary to take the step, but also the, to stay there.

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 Crossing the Jordan was a step of faith, a step of faith.

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 Going down to Philadelphia and hearing all the different stories, different

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 Uh, we can all relate to that.

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 Starting the church in New Hope 25 years ago was a step of faith.

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 It was a big step of faith.

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 There were seven church plants before us.

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 You paid, did the right thing coming to Lansdale.

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 They called it the church plant graveyard.

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 It was the occult capital of the East coast.

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 Uh, it's, it was, and still is the Sodom and Gomorrah of Pennsylvania.

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 Uh, and when we started, it hit the fan.

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 Oh, it hit the fan.

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 Oh, they, they came after us.

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 They were attacking.

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 The TVs were showing up.

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 Uh, and all lies, they all signed a petition.

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 Thousands of people signed petition that not let us come into the town.

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 They, and they were all lies.

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 We're just trying to make money on the town, blah, blah, crazy stuff.

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 Nobody answered me.

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 One guy wrote, said, ah, Chuck, I think you're being a little extreme here.

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 I'm like, and here it is right here.

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 It is exactly what has happened.

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 The first service was a zoo.

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 It was crazy.

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 That's what it was like starting this church.

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 It was a step of faith, but we've seen God's work and powerful ways.

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 Number one, we're still there and we're no longer over eight, you know, over seven.

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 We're still there, which is huge.

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 People say, how are you doing there?

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 Y'all we're still there.

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 You know, how's it going?

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 Is it flourishing?

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 We're still there.

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 What I think was the second service that we had.

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 I'm like, I'm the pastor.

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 I should have thought of that.

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 Why don't we make it a minister opportunity?

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 to help out somehow if we could help out, you know, and they go, what do you mean?

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 We have this stuff and we're going to, you know, hand it out.

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 They're like, Oh, cause they thought churches only wanted to get money.

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 they were just on both shock shock.

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 We canceled the service.

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 We canceled their service.

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 and walking the seven miles and raising money.

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 We just canceled church for, they finally stopped 15 years into the thing.

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 we just didn't even have church on that side.

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 gave us the center table with a giant poster and they put, put us in

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 their publications front and center, me walking with my kids on the AIDS

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 walk and they were just so excited.

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 but we know you care.

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 We never compromised the message.

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 Not one bit, but we spoke the truth and love and they couldn't do more.

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 They would have events to plan for the AIDS walk.

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 It was called the Raven.

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 They couldn't, they couldn't, they fell over themselves looking out for us,

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 bringing us food, bringing us something to drink, you know, what do you need?

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 There was an AIDS house in new hope.

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 There still is an AIDS house, but there was one when we were there and the AIDS

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 house, uh, it was, it had like eight, 10 residents or something.

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 People that will worry, God, grenades walk.

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 We care about it.

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 They'd all be out there, you know, and then they just forget them.

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 lunch and, and getting together.

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 start getting saved and at one point, every resident in that building was

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 saved and coming to our church and it ticked off the people who are running

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 it because they sold us that, you know, Christians are bad people and they

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 So now we're cut off, but all those people came up through a lot of them

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 died, most of them died over time with the AIDS and stuff, but they

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 became part of our church.

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 the people in the AIDS house and, uh, just amazing stories.

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 That's that, that's one example of a Jordan.

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 What's your Jordan river, center of Philadelphia, what's your Jordan river?

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 What step of faith is God calling you to take?

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 What step of faith is God calling Lansdale, uh, life to take?

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 Lansdale life to take.

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 It's crazy, but you know, God has called you to do it.

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 Some crazy thing.

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 Maybe it's missions.

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 Maybe it's a mission trip.

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 Maybe it's a ministry of some kind.

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 Maybe it's taking a stand for Jesus Christ.

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 Maybe it's witnessing to someone that is not going to witness to that person.

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 That's the last person I want to witness to.

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 We could all tell those stories, right?

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 Maybe it's, it's crazy, but God has called you to stay in your

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 marriage, even though it's very frustrating.

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 Maybe God's calling you to stay here until you get married, even

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 though it's really, really hard.

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 Maybe it's waiting for God's lead and some area of your life that

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 God is calling us to do.

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 What is your Jordan?

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 What step of faith is God calling you to take?

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 The next crazy step is in Joshua six, one to two.

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 And we already did crossing the Jordan.

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 I call this one crashing, crashing Jericho.

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 And in chapter six, verse one, where it says now Jericho was securely

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 shut up because of the children of Israel.

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 None went out and none came in.

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 And the Lord said to Joshua, see, I have given Jericho into your hand.

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 It's King and the mighty men of valor.

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 You shall march around the city.

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 All you men of war.

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 You shall go around the city once this you shall do for six days.

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 Oh, I went too far.

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 I'll just do first two.

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 I'm going to come back to that one in a minute.

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 Uh, so anyway, he, he goes, here's Jericho.

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 You got to take it.

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 He might only do a couple of verses there.

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 Crossing the Jordan is a picture of salvation, right?

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 Into the Jordan means spreading judgment out of the Jordan following Joshua.

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 Joshua is a picture of Jesus Christ.

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 The same exact word, Hebrew and Greek, Joshua, Hebrew, Jesus, Greek.

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 It's a complete picture of Jesus Christ and what he's done.

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 He, he led us in, he led us to salvation.

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 Okay.

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 But as soon as, as soon as they cross the Jordan, they run right into Jericho, right

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 into it and what, what's this, right?

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 What's this?

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 Uh, think of, think of us as it's a picture of salvation, right?

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 What is this?

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 I thought when I put my faith in Jesus, the battle is over.

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 Did anybody ever believe that at one time?

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 If maybe for the first five minutes of your, uh, faith, right.

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 Then, and a lot of times we put our faith in Jesus and people even teach this

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 on certain guys, Joel will see on TV, teach us.

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 Yeah, you can, now you can just sit back and relax.

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 You can sit back and relax and just wait for Jesus to come again.

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 Right.

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 That was kind of a, when I was a kid, it was kind of a common theme,

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 you know, Christians, right?

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 That was a different world, but wait for Jesus.

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 If we, we put our faith in Jesus, we get baptized.

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 We are, have a mountain top experience.

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 If you've never been baptized, get baptized.

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 And if you want to come down, Chris, bring them down to the river.

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 We'll do it in the Jordan.

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 That's a really fun in the Jordan.

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 All right.

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 And so, uh, but, but then you get home and you get back to real life and we

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 get wham blindsided and you're like, what's this?

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 Right.

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 Listen, when we're saved, when we're saved, we put our faith in

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 Jesus Christ, we're saved.

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 The war is over, but the battles are just beginning.

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 It's like mop up.

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 Any World War II fans out there, you know, or the wars we, we had, we D-Day,

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 we, we, we got into Europe.

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 We knew the war was over, but then it was mop up time.

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 And that was a long, you know, same with the Japanese islands, you know,

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 taking those islands from the Japanese mop up brutal.

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 That was over.

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 We're going to win.

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 No doubt about it.

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 But mop up time is a brutal, brutal time for fighting brutal time.

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 And that's what it is like spiritually.

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 Salvation is a gift, right?

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 It's a gift.

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 We get it by putting our faith in Jesus Christ, but practical sanctification,

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 practical sanctification is a life long battle, a lifelong battle.

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 And it's still all by faith.

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 We're saved by faith.

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 We live by faith, but it's a battle.

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 It's a battle.

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 Look at the Israelites.

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 They were given the Promised Land.

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 Remember all the times God said, I'm giving it to you.

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 I'm giving you the Promised Land.

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 And then they had to fight for every inch of it, right?

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 Isn't that crazy?

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 I give it to you.

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 They had to fight for every inch of it, every inch of it.

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 It, it, it, because when we become a Christian, we were saved.

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 We have peace.

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 We have joy, but we're not beamed up to heaven.

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 You know, there's no beam me up, Scotty, right?

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 There's, we're not beamed up.

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 No, now we're conscious of a enemy within and without.

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 We were ignorant of both before, but now we are conscious of an enemy within the

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 old self got to kill it and, and without Satan, right?

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 We're now called to kill the flesh and resist the devil by faith in God's grace.

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 It's all by faith.

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 We're saved by faith.

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 We live by faith, right?

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 So the Israelites hit this wall, this Jericho, this key Canaanite city.

475
00:25:39,339 --> 00:25:43,319
 It was the key Canaanite city and all of the, all of the Promised Land.

476
00:25:43,599 --> 00:25:45,079
 It was the strongest one.

477
00:25:45,460 --> 00:25:47,220
 And let's look at how God said to take it.

478
00:25:47,299 --> 00:25:50,700
 I already started reading the verses, verse three, God says to take it this way.

479
00:25:50,980 --> 00:25:53,059
 He says, you shall march around the city.

480
00:25:53,460 --> 00:25:56,339
 All you men of war, you shall go all around the city.

481
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:02,059
 Once this you shall do six days and seven priests shall bear seven trumpets

482
00:26:02,059 --> 00:26:03,400
 of Ram's horn before the art.

483
00:26:03,660 --> 00:26:07,279
 But the seventh day you shall march around the city seven times and the

484
00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:08,680
 priest shall blow the trumpets.

485
00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:13,759
 It shall come to pass that when they make a long, a long blast with Ram's horns.

486
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,940
 And when you hear the sound of the trumpet, that all the people shall shout

487
00:26:17,940 --> 00:26:21,559
 with a great shout, then the wall of the city will fall down flat and the

488
00:26:21,559 --> 00:26:24,000
 people shall go up every man straight before it.

489
00:26:24,059 --> 00:26:27,460
 Now this is, this is the commander of the Lord's army telling

490
00:26:27,460 --> 00:26:28,720
 Joshua what's going to happen.

491
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:30,519
 This isn't the people.

492
00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:32,140
 He's just telling Joshua at this point.

493
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:36,279
 And we know the commander of the Lord's army was actually Jesus.

494
00:26:36,859 --> 00:26:40,400
 If you look at the, the, the context and it's actually a Christoph.

495
00:26:40,539 --> 00:26:42,099
 And he, Jesus appeared to Joshua.

496
00:26:42,700 --> 00:26:44,099
 How's that right?

497
00:26:44,579 --> 00:26:47,700
 And he's given him the command and he's telling him how he's going to take it.

498
00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:48,000
 Okay.

499
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,720
 And, and, and, and you can imagine what Joshua must have been thinking as

500
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,059
 he's given him the battle plans, not to the people, he's given it

501
00:26:55,059 --> 00:26:56,359
 directly to Joshua at this point.

502
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,500
 You can imagine what he had to be thinking.

503
00:26:58,500 --> 00:27:00,940
 And the people are going to think I'm crazy.

504
00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:03,539
 They're going to think I'm crazy.

505
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:04,859
 Jericho will laugh.

506
00:27:05,220 --> 00:27:06,480
 Couldn't we try fighting first?

507
00:27:07,259 --> 00:27:09,259
 Can we like charge the walls and get repulsed?

508
00:27:09,460 --> 00:27:11,359
 That'll be more open to your idea, God.

509
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,460
 There'll be more open to your idea then, right?

510
00:27:15,940 --> 00:27:17,539
 But imagine a battle today.

511
00:27:17,619 --> 00:27:23,500
 Imagine a battle where, where the army attacks and, and, and is, is, is

512
00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:25,079
 almost, almost victorious.

513
00:27:25,299 --> 00:27:26,779
 And then they say, okay, that's enough.

514
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:27,519
 Let's all go home.

515
00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:28,160
 And they just go home.

516
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,140
 Can you imagine that?

517
00:27:30,019 --> 00:27:31,319
 Anybody been watching the Israel news?

518
00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:32,980
 You can see that what I'm talking about, right?

519
00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:37,019
 But, but God was teaching them dependence.

520
00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:39,960
 He gave Joshua this command because he's teaching dependence.

521
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,480
 Is your faith in your strength or in my strength?

522
00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:47,759
 Did you ever wonder why God had him cross at Jericho?

523
00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:50,960
 He could have crossed anywhere, anywhere.

524
00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:52,819
 It's a long river.

525
00:27:53,740 --> 00:27:55,299
 There was only a few cities on the river.

526
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,019
 A lot of them were inland.

527
00:27:57,019 --> 00:27:59,319
 But he had him cross exactly at Jericho.

528
00:27:59,779 --> 00:28:02,519
 He was teaching them dependence, dependence.

529
00:28:03,259 --> 00:28:08,759
 That's why second Corinthians 12, nine, and 10 says this, I probably, I can't

530
00:28:08,759 --> 00:28:10,279
 look back, but I'll give you my version.

531
00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:12,400
 Uh, I'm probably a little different from that one.

532
00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:15,740
 But it says, but he said to me, my grace is sufficient for you for my

533
00:28:15,740 --> 00:28:17,440
 power is made perfect in weakness.

534
00:28:19,059 --> 00:28:22,259
 That is why for Christ's sake, uh, I'm going to read it.

535
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:22,720
 All right.

536
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:24,420
 Uh, my grace is sufficient for you.

537
00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:26,220
 My strength is made perfect in weakness.

538
00:28:26,220 --> 00:28:28,900
 Therefore I'll boast, I'm going to read this one.

539
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,339
 Therefore, most gladly, I have like three versions of this memorize.

540
00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:36,019
 Uh, therefore, most gladly, I will rather boast in my infirmities that

541
00:28:36,019 --> 00:28:37,859
 the power of Christ may rest upon me.

542
00:28:38,140 --> 00:28:42,559
 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities and reproaches in needs and

543
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:46,240
 persecutions and distresses for Christ's sake from when I am weak.

544
00:28:46,539 --> 00:28:48,279
 Then I am strong.

545
00:28:49,460 --> 00:28:51,160
 That's a great, great one.

546
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,680
 If you don't have that one on memorize it, any version will do.

547
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,519
 I have any, but he said, my grace is sufficient for you and my weakness.

548
00:28:57,819 --> 00:28:59,240
 When I'm weak, then I am strong.

549
00:28:59,660 --> 00:29:03,819
 God puts Jericho's in our lives to make us dependent.

550
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,779
 He's making us dependent.

551
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:10,200
 And then he teaches us lessons as we go through this process.

552
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,779
 And there's three things that jump out with this Jericho thing.

553
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:13,859
 Three different lessons.

554
00:29:13,980 --> 00:29:18,740
 The first one is in chapter six, verse six, where he says this, then Joshua,

555
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,259
 the son of non-call, now he's got the message from the commander of the

556
00:29:23,259 --> 00:29:24,839
 Lord's army, which we know is Jesus, right?

557
00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:29,059
 Christ, then Joshua, the son of none, call the priests and said to them, take

558
00:29:29,059 --> 00:29:32,880
 up the arc of the covenant and let seven priests bear seven trumpets of

559
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,200
 Ram's horn before the arc of the Lord.

560
00:29:35,619 --> 00:29:39,619
 And he said to the people proceed, march around the city and let him who

561
00:29:39,619 --> 00:29:41,799
 is armed advanced before the arc of the Lord.

562
00:29:42,220 --> 00:29:46,299
 So it was when Joshua had spoken to the people that the seven priests bearing

563
00:29:46,299 --> 00:29:50,420
 the seven trumpets of Ram's horns before the Lord advanced and blew the

564
00:29:50,420 --> 00:29:53,299
 trumpets and the arc of the covenant, the Lord followed them.

565
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,480
 The armed men went before the priest who blew the trumpets and the rear guard

566
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,640
 came after the arc while the priest continued blowing the trumpets.

567
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:03,299
 Okay.

568
00:30:03,779 --> 00:30:08,299
 So what, what lesson, the lesson I want to bring out from this one is faith.

569
00:30:09,059 --> 00:30:14,119
 It's faith, Joshua, and this is why Joshua gets this instructions from

570
00:30:14,119 --> 00:30:17,480
 Christ, but then he tells them what to do.

571
00:30:17,579 --> 00:30:19,200
 He doesn't tell them what's going to happen.

572
00:30:20,420 --> 00:30:22,960
 You notice that he left out the result.

573
00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:28,599
 What he left it out.

574
00:30:29,019 --> 00:30:33,920
 Do you ever notice that he was teaching them faith, faith.

575
00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:36,039
 He didn't tell them the wall would fall.

576
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,900
 He just said to March, Jesus rarely, our Joshua, Jesus rarely tells us the

577
00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:48,779
 reason why until first we obey first, we obey, and then we see the reason why.

578
00:30:48,779 --> 00:30:49,160
 Right.

579
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:53,920
 That's how it works in John eight 31, where it says this, if you, Jesus said,

580
00:30:53,940 --> 00:30:57,660
 if you hold to my teaching, you're really my disciples, then you will know

581
00:30:57,660 --> 00:31:01,539
 the truth, then you will know the truth.

582
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,019
 You catch that?

583
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,759
 See what version, uh, okay.

584
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,599
 Uh, do you have that one?

585
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,359
 John eight, if you hold to my teaching, your own man, disciples,

586
00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:13,839
 then you'll know the truth and the truth will set you free.

587
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:17,980
 Uh, and the truth shall make you free.

588
00:31:17,980 --> 00:31:18,180
 Okay.

589
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,079
 I got several versions once again.

590
00:31:20,579 --> 00:31:20,720
 All right.

591
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,700
 That's when you get to be my age, you have lots of versions in your head here.

592
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:27,700
 So the point is this first we hold to the teaching.

593
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,680
 If we're really a disciple, if we're going to follow God's word a hundred

594
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:38,119
 percent, and then after we hold to it, then, then you will know the truth.

595
00:31:39,940 --> 00:31:41,359
 That's how God works.

596
00:31:42,059 --> 00:31:42,839
 That's how he works.

597
00:31:43,359 --> 00:31:47,839
 It, he rarely tells us the whole story before he first calls us to

598
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:49,099
 take a step away and follow him.

599
00:31:49,259 --> 00:31:51,880
 And then we see the reason for it.

600
00:31:52,740 --> 00:31:58,779
 Lesson number two in verse 10, where Joshua says then, um, now Joshua had

601
00:31:58,779 --> 00:32:03,440
 commanded the people saying you shall not shout or make any noise with your

602
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:08,420
 voice, nor shall a word proceed out of your mouth until the day I say to you

603
00:32:08,420 --> 00:32:10,259
 shout, then you shall shout.

604
00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:16,579
 Lesson number two, patience, patience.

605
00:32:17,399 --> 00:32:18,680
 They had to be quiet.

606
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,559
 They had to be a test of obedience.

607
00:32:23,019 --> 00:32:26,240
 It's multiplied once again, because they weren't even told why they're marching.

608
00:32:27,380 --> 00:32:28,759
 They still didn't know why they were marching.

609
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,859
 So we have faith, we have patience.

610
00:32:32,259 --> 00:32:35,900
 And the third one is, uh, I'll get to tell you, it's perseverance.

611
00:32:36,180 --> 00:32:38,740
 Look at verse 11 where it says this in verse 11.

612
00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:42,700
 So he had the arc of the Lord circle the city going around at once.

613
00:32:42,740 --> 00:32:45,299
 Then they came into the camp and lodged in the camp.

614
00:32:46,019 --> 00:32:48,359
 One time around, you know, stop, right?

615
00:32:48,859 --> 00:32:52,140
 Uh, this is perseverance, perseverance.

616
00:32:53,299 --> 00:32:54,079
 And what happened?

617
00:32:54,779 --> 00:32:57,000
 What happened when they did that first one?

618
00:32:57,619 --> 00:33:00,200
 And Joshua rose early in the morning, verse 12.

619
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,059
 And the priest took up the arc of the Lord.

620
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:06,599
 Then seven priests peering seven trumpets, rams horns before the arc of the Lord

621
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:10,960
 went on continually in blue with the trumpets and the armed men went before

622
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,579
 them, but the rear guard came after the arc of the Lord.

623
00:33:14,420 --> 00:33:15,759
 This is getting monotonous, right?

624
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,380
 Well, the priest continued blowing the trumpets and the second day they

625
00:33:19,380 --> 00:33:21,559
 marched around the city once and returned to the camp.

626
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,299
 So they did six days, six days.

627
00:33:27,180 --> 00:33:28,160
 It's perseverance.

628
00:33:28,420 --> 00:33:28,980
 What happened?

629
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:37,960
 Nothing visibly, nothing visibly, but something did happen.

630
00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:40,740
 What really did happen?

631
00:33:42,059 --> 00:33:43,740
 They were obedient.

632
00:33:47,740 --> 00:33:49,000
 Something did happen.

633
00:33:49,819 --> 00:33:52,640
 They were obedient to what God called them to do.

634
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,779
 And they developed their faith and their patience and their

635
00:33:56,779 --> 00:33:59,140
 perseverance because they were obedient.

636
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,539
 God was doing something in them.

637
00:34:03,539 --> 00:34:06,319
 Have you ever felt like you were faithful, but nothing happened?

638
00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:07,420
 You ever feel like that?

639
00:34:08,260 --> 00:34:09,500
 Why am I doing this?

640
00:34:10,299 --> 00:34:11,340
 Why am I doing this?

641
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:15,420
 I put all this energy into my kid and they rebelled.

642
00:34:18,139 --> 00:34:21,340
 I prayed for someone who was sick and they weren't healed.

643
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:27,800
 I went down to the abortion clinic, Planned Parenthood, and tried to

644
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,400
 witness these ladies and say babies, but they went in.

645
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:31,900
 I don't know what they did with that baby.

646
00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:32,519
 I have no idea.

647
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:33,539
 You ever feel like that?

648
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,920
 We were down at the Planned Parenthood War Minister for 20 years.

649
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:39,980
 They just closed.

650
00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:42,820
 It was beautiful, beautiful.

651
00:34:46,940 --> 00:34:51,860
 How many days and nights were we down there praying with the

652
00:34:51,860 --> 00:34:53,179
 believers against that?

653
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:57,300
 We witnessed this somebody, but we don't think they got saved or

654
00:34:57,300 --> 00:34:58,360
 they haven't been saved yet.

655
00:34:58,460 --> 00:35:00,019
 And we've been witnessing for all these years.

656
00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:04,980
 We help an addict with a battle they're having and they relapse, you know,

657
00:35:05,139 --> 00:35:08,239
 or we have a ministry, we're doing our ministry, but we don't see any

658
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,780
 visible fruit.

659
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,000
 Can anybody relate to any of this?

660
00:35:14,420 --> 00:35:18,760
 But nothing happens, but something is happening.

661
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,480
 We are being faithful.

662
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,039
 We are being faithful to God's call, faithful.

663
00:35:28,619 --> 00:35:33,539
 God is developing our faith, patience, and perseverance.

664
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,800
 He's using all this to accomplish this.

665
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,519
 In Romans 5.3, it says this, not only so, but we also rejoice in our suffering

666
00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:45,099
 because I'm probably using a different version, suffering, because we know

667
00:35:45,099 --> 00:35:48,840
 that suffering develops perseverance, perseverance, character, and character,

668
00:35:48,940 --> 00:35:49,159
 hope.

669
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,940
 The reason for the trial that we're going through is God's working on

670
00:35:52,940 --> 00:35:57,079
 these things, perseverance, character.

671
00:35:57,340 --> 00:35:58,099
 Oh, I got the same ones.

672
00:35:58,219 --> 00:35:58,320
 All right.

673
00:35:58,420 --> 00:35:58,440
 Good.

674
00:35:58,619 --> 00:35:59,139
 Got them all right.

675
00:35:59,380 --> 00:35:59,480
 All right.

676
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:00,840
 Perseverance, character, and hope.

677
00:36:01,339 --> 00:36:03,340
 God's working on that in our life.

678
00:36:03,820 --> 00:36:06,380
 That's what he's doing through the trial that we're going through.

679
00:36:06,380 --> 00:36:09,480
 Then we still seem like nothing's happening, but something is happening.

680
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:10,800
 It's like the karate kid.

681
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,719
 Remember the first karate kid, uh, you know, when Mr.

682
00:36:13,900 --> 00:36:19,059
 Miyagi has him waxing the car, wax on, wax off, wax on, wax off.

683
00:36:19,139 --> 00:36:20,199
 And he finally blows this up.

684
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,760
 He goes, what am I doing this for?

685
00:36:22,380 --> 00:36:24,599
 You're just using me to wax your cars.

686
00:36:24,980 --> 00:36:27,519
 You know, I want to learn karate.

687
00:36:27,820 --> 00:36:29,559
 I got to fight these bad guys.

688
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,940
 You know, you come out of these bullies, you teach me something.

689
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,539
 And he goes, I knew something.

690
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,139
 Wax on, ha, wax on, ha.

691
00:36:36,139 --> 00:36:39,559
 He was teaching him karate the whole time.

692
00:36:42,699 --> 00:36:43,340
 And that's God.

693
00:36:44,260 --> 00:36:49,960
 It seems like we're wasting time and God's preparing us for the battle.

694
00:36:50,940 --> 00:36:52,179
 And look what happens next.

695
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,159
 Look what happens next.

696
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,960
 Verse 15, chapter six, verse 15.

697
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,320
 But it came to pass on the seventh day that they rose early about the dawning

698
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,780
 of the day and marched around the city seven times in the same manner on that

699
00:37:05,780 --> 00:37:11,179
 day only they marched around the city seven times and the seventh time it

700
00:37:11,179 --> 00:37:15,780
 happened when the priest blew the trumpets that Joshua said to the people

701
00:37:15,780 --> 00:37:18,659
 shout for the Lord has given you the city.

702
00:37:19,139 --> 00:37:24,659
 Now the city shall be doomed by the Lord to destruction and it, and it, and

703
00:37:24,659 --> 00:37:27,880
 all who are in it, only Rahab the harlot shall live.

704
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:34,300
 She and all who are with her in the house because she held the

705
00:37:34,300 --> 00:37:40,260
 messengers that hid the messengers that we sent and you by all means abstain

706
00:37:40,260 --> 00:37:44,559
 from the accursed things, lest you become accursed when you take of the accursed

707
00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:49,880
 things and make the camp of Israel a curse and trouble it, but all the silver

708
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,820
 and gold and vessels of bronze and iron are consecrated to the Lord.

709
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,320
 They shall come into the treasury of the Lord.

710
00:37:56,699 --> 00:38:01,539
 So the people shouted when the priest blew the trumpets and it happened when

711
00:38:01,539 --> 00:38:04,579
 the people heard the sound of the trumpet and the people shouted to the

712
00:38:04,579 --> 00:38:07,239
 great shout that the wall fell down flat.

713
00:38:07,619 --> 00:38:09,260
 Then the people went up into the city.

714
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,400
 Every man straight before him and they took the city.

715
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:19,780
 They took the city crazy God's crazy commands plus our crazy

716
00:38:19,780 --> 00:38:22,639
 obedience equals crazy results.

717
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:29,960
 Crazy commands, crazy obedience, crazy results on the seventh day, the

718
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:38,420
 seventh time around, how many lapses have been total 13, 13 times around.

719
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,380
 Finally 13 times around.

720
00:38:41,860 --> 00:38:43,199
 And why didn't they quit?

721
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,139
 Why didn't they quit faith?

722
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:57,440
 Hebrews 11 30 says this Hebrews 11 30 says by faith, the walls of Jericho fell

723
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:03,760
 down after they were encircled for seven days by faith, by faith, their faith,

724
00:39:03,860 --> 00:39:09,460
 by faith, they came down, their faith kept them going, kept them going.

725
00:39:11,260 --> 00:39:19,380
 One more step, one more sermon, one more diaper.

726
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,559
 Do you have grandchildren?

727
00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:29,199
 Uh, one more hug, one more prayer and encouragement to somebody.

728
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,539
 One more, you might be ready to quit.

729
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,360
 Have you ever felt like quitting?

730
00:39:35,219 --> 00:39:38,239
 Probably not since the drive down here to over here today, right?

731
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:40,239
 It's every day, right?

732
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:47,619
 But if we quit, we will miss out on what God is trying to do,

733
00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:49,840
 what God is going to do.

734
00:39:49,980 --> 00:39:50,820
 We'll miss out.

735
00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:55,340
 God's crazy commands plus crazy obedience equals crazy results.

736
00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,420
 If we will bail out, if we bail out, we will never know what crazy,

737
00:40:00,420 --> 00:40:01,900
 powerful thing God had planned.

738
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:03,659
 We'll never know.

739
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:13,260
 I, uh, in new hope, I remember this one guy years ago, his name was Kevin.

740
00:40:13,539 --> 00:40:17,320
 He w we had a woman in our church who had a house on her property that she

741
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,039
 rented out in addition to the house she lived in and she rented it to a guy

742
00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:23,980
 named Kevin and she said, Chuck, you have to meet this Kevin guy.

743
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:25,940
 He's gay.

744
00:40:26,639 --> 00:40:29,059
 He's a homosexual activist.

745
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:31,380
 He was a heavy hitter in DC.

746
00:40:31,639 --> 00:40:32,940
 He was down in DC all the time.

747
00:40:33,260 --> 00:40:34,440
 He was a heavy, heavy hitter.

748
00:40:35,219 --> 00:40:40,679
 And, uh, and he just, he, he, she's like, I've been witnessing to him.

749
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:44,960
 And, and, uh, I want you to come and talk to him because he's,

750
00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:46,739
 he's really open to the gospel.

751
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,920
 And I was like, Hey, cause I'm, you know, I don't, we have people, I'm, I'm

752
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,820
 using this story, but we have people of all different struggles in their life.

753
00:40:54,139 --> 00:40:58,059
 Just like your church does also, but this guy's struggles, homosexuality,

754
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:58,699
 not a struggle.

755
00:40:58,860 --> 00:40:59,639
 He was completely in.

756
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:00,460
 I met this guy.

757
00:41:00,619 --> 00:41:05,360
 He had scars all over his arms where he cut himself for whatever reason.

758
00:41:05,739 --> 00:41:06,659
 This guy was beat up.

759
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,500
 It's, it's not a happy lifestyle.

760
00:41:09,420 --> 00:41:11,119
 Uh, trust me, it's not a happy lifestyle.

761
00:41:11,539 --> 00:41:14,460
 And, uh, no matter what they say on TV, it's not happy.

762
00:41:14,460 --> 00:41:18,179
 And, and he, I started talking about God and he was so open.

763
00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:20,500
 He started coming to church and I'll never forget I'm preaching.

764
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,960
 And he was sitting in the very back of the auditorium.

765
00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:28,780
 Remember how big the auditorium is, but he was locked in, he was

766
00:41:28,780 --> 00:41:31,780
 just like laser focused, you know?

767
00:41:32,219 --> 00:41:36,639
 And he just, he, he was just didn't take his eyes off me and the word.

768
00:41:36,820 --> 00:41:40,980
 And he was just really, I knew God was working and I went over to his house

769
00:41:40,980 --> 00:41:42,219
 and met with him and Mary Ellis.

770
00:41:42,219 --> 00:41:45,019
 And he was like, I believe it.

771
00:41:46,260 --> 00:41:54,619
 I want to give my life to Jesus, but I know what it will cost me.

772
00:41:56,900 --> 00:41:59,420
 Everybody, he was immersed in this life.

773
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:02,320
 He had more dresses in his closet than anybody ever saw before.

774
00:42:02,500 --> 00:42:05,059
 You know, my wife would have loved to get, go visit and borrow a few of them.

775
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:11,019
 Yeah, this, this guy was, this, this guy was, this guy was, he was all the

776
00:42:11,019 --> 00:42:15,300
 people he knew came from this life and they're, and they're in militant, right?

777
00:42:16,539 --> 00:42:19,340
 And not all they're, I've got neighbors, they're not militant, but he was

778
00:42:19,340 --> 00:42:24,699
 part of the militant group and he, he was really, really close and I'll

779
00:42:24,699 --> 00:42:27,500
 never forget, he kept coming and then I'll never forget the day before

780
00:42:27,500 --> 00:42:31,599
 Easter, Mary Ellis called me and said, uh, said, Malcolm's coming tomorrow.

781
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,579
 I believe he's going to become a Christian tomorrow.

782
00:42:33,739 --> 00:42:35,460
 I almost sure, but I just met with him.

783
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,500
 I showed him a video of the resurrection.

784
00:42:37,500 --> 00:42:39,500
 He was in tears.

785
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,079
 He he's this close tomorrow's the day you start praying.

786
00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:48,880
 So I was praying the next day, come to church and Kevin wasn't there.

787
00:42:49,539 --> 00:42:51,039
 I was like, where is he?

788
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,360
 I, he was, he really was determined to be here.

789
00:42:54,940 --> 00:42:56,480
 And I said to Mary Ellis, she goes, I don't know.

790
00:42:56,599 --> 00:42:59,300
 And she goes home and I got a call later in the day.

791
00:42:59,340 --> 00:43:01,519
 She said, Chuck, he's dead.

792
00:43:03,260 --> 00:43:04,119
 He died during the night.

793
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:08,420
 Now listen, these guys live really rough lifestyles and the things they

794
00:43:08,420 --> 00:43:13,639
 do are very bad for the body, you know, and, and this guy died from some

795
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:19,360
 internal hemorrhaging and it was, and that the, uh, guys, the EM EMTs, the

796
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,539
 guy came out and said he died painful.

797
00:43:21,780 --> 00:43:22,960
 What he had, they figured it out.

798
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,400
 Said he, it took him probably six hours to die and he was intense

799
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,739
 pain the whole time.

800
00:43:29,099 --> 00:43:29,599
 It was terrible.

801
00:43:29,820 --> 00:43:31,500
 That just, I don't even want to tell you, terrible.

802
00:43:33,179 --> 00:43:38,840
 And, and I said to Mary Ellis, I believe he became a Christian.

803
00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:49,420
 He was this close and God knew what it would take to get him over that line.

804
00:43:50,260 --> 00:43:51,719
 Six hours of intense pain.

805
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,940
 No, he had to know he was dying by the end.

806
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:56,519
 Six hours.

807
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,480
 I believe it took that to bring him to God.

808
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,480
 And then God said, I'm not leaving you on this earth.

809
00:44:02,579 --> 00:44:06,139
 And he took them home because his life would have been hell.

810
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,300
 You think, you know, these, his friends and everybody would have

811
00:44:09,300 --> 00:44:10,719
 just hammered this guy.

812
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,139
 He was, he was a heavy hitter in DC, heavy hitter.

813
00:44:15,439 --> 00:44:17,760
 And we believe he put his faith in Jesus.

814
00:44:18,579 --> 00:44:20,900
 And so we just took comfort in that.

815
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,480
 But then Mary Ellis called me later in the week.

816
00:44:22,619 --> 00:44:25,219
 She said, Oh, they're going to have a memorial service on the mule barge.

817
00:44:25,340 --> 00:44:27,059
 If you ever in the new hope, they have these mule barges.

818
00:44:27,059 --> 00:44:28,019
 They pull them down the barge.

819
00:44:28,139 --> 00:44:29,179
 They're going to have a mule barge.

820
00:44:29,179 --> 00:44:30,559
 Memorial service for him.

821
00:44:31,039 --> 00:44:35,199
 And, and I invited myself to come and I said, and I want you to come too.

822
00:44:35,699 --> 00:44:40,059
 And because, uh, I told them I was the last person ever to talk to him.

823
00:44:40,219 --> 00:44:44,820
 And I want to share what Kevin told me in our last meeting.

824
00:44:44,980 --> 00:44:45,300
 All right.

825
00:44:45,659 --> 00:44:49,880
 So she invites, she invited me and said, and bring all the Bibles you can find.

826
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,380
 So I had a paper bag.

827
00:44:52,539 --> 00:44:55,699
 I threw all these Bibles into it, you know, you know, everything I could find,

828
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,320
 you know, and I brought them all in and I get there.

829
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,880
 And I show up and she's so excited.

830
00:45:01,139 --> 00:45:02,619
 Whereas we're getting ready to get on the mule barge.

831
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,079
 She said, I got my bag of Bibles.

832
00:45:04,340 --> 00:45:08,219
 And, and she says, they promised me I could talk last because I talked to him

833
00:45:08,219 --> 00:45:10,059
 last, they promised me I could share.

834
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:11,440
 And so I can't wait.

835
00:45:11,780 --> 00:45:12,980
 I don't think they promised her anything.

836
00:45:13,139 --> 00:45:15,239
 I think she insisted that she, they let her share.

837
00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:16,659
 This woman was so funny.

838
00:45:17,059 --> 00:45:20,440
 And so she, uh, she was an evangelist beyond evangelists.

839
00:45:20,820 --> 00:45:25,260
 And so, uh, so we get there and I'm there to hand out my Bibles.

840
00:45:25,260 --> 00:45:27,699
 And this group was very strange looking.

841
00:45:28,420 --> 00:45:33,500
 It was a weird group on the barge pack that, you know, and, and it got a lot weirder.

842
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,420
 Uh, the first guy who got up to speak was his name was pumpkin.

843
00:45:36,639 --> 00:45:38,519
 I don't know if you ever follow New Hope, but his name was pumpkin.

844
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,760
 And he's, he looks like a pumpkin.

845
00:45:41,139 --> 00:45:44,820
 This guy, uh, he's old, old and he's looked like a pumpkin.

846
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:50,280
 And, and, but he's a real activist and he starts giving this whole

847
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,860
 history lesson with a microphone.

848
00:45:51,860 --> 00:45:55,440
 He starts giving a whole history lesson of how the whole gay movement went from

849
00:45:55,900 --> 00:45:57,420
 ostracized to now they're in control.

850
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,139
 And he he's given this whole message and while he's doing, he's

851
00:46:00,139 --> 00:46:01,920
 stripping off pieces of clothing.

852
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:02,519
 All right.

853
00:46:02,739 --> 00:46:04,880
 So he'd tell one story and he'd take off his shirt.

854
00:46:05,139 --> 00:46:06,360
 The other one take off the shoes.

855
00:46:06,659 --> 00:46:09,719
 He's doing a strip tease, you know, this guy who had no

856
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:10,820
 business taking off his shirt.

857
00:46:11,019 --> 00:46:13,500
 Let me assure you, there was nothing provocative about this.

858
00:46:13,559 --> 00:46:13,679
 Right.

859
00:46:13,980 --> 00:46:19,159
 And so he, so, but he's given this and he finally gets down to his thong.

860
00:46:20,099 --> 00:46:22,159
 Picture a pumpkin with a thong on.

861
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,280
 This is what, this is what we're dealing with.

862
00:46:24,579 --> 00:46:26,400
 And I was creeped out.

863
00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:29,400
 I'm, I'm used to a lot, but this was too much for me.

864
00:46:29,699 --> 00:46:33,039
 I said, Mary Ellis, here's the Bibles, the mega Bibles.

865
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:37,300
 Uh, and I was here and it was about to where that sign is.

866
00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:39,059
 That's the barge on both sides.

867
00:46:39,260 --> 00:46:42,159
 I said, I'm going to make the jump because I think I can make it.

868
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,619
 And even if I can't, I, I, I'm going to get close enough

869
00:46:44,619 --> 00:46:45,639
 to get out of that canal.

870
00:46:46,039 --> 00:46:46,960
 I'm, I'm Mary Ellis.

871
00:46:47,179 --> 00:46:47,519
 I'm gone.

872
00:46:47,980 --> 00:46:48,639
 Here's the Bibles.

873
00:46:48,639 --> 00:46:49,519
 You do it.

874
00:46:49,639 --> 00:46:53,559
 She's like now, pastor Chuck, don't forget.

875
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:54,900
 We're here for the gospel.

876
00:46:55,260 --> 00:47:08,179
 You know, we have to, we have to look past all of this stuff for the gospel.

877
00:47:09,179 --> 00:47:10,460
 She talked me down.

878
00:47:11,199 --> 00:47:12,579
 He didn't take the thong off.

879
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:13,420
 All right.

880
00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:15,800
 Another guy got up to speak all this stuff going on.

881
00:47:15,940 --> 00:47:18,440
 And then a little later toward the end, they got up

882
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,920
 and they started, the guy was on this keyboard and they started doing this chant.

883
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,199
 And, and they started reading from the paper.

884
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:30,539
 And I, I looked over the paper and, and Mary Ellis did too.

885
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:33,260
 And they were actually, and they were spreading the ashes

886
00:47:33,260 --> 00:47:34,760
 and hitting a gong and all this.

887
00:47:34,980 --> 00:47:36,659
 And it was actually a satanic ritual.

888
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,420
 They're praying to the devil, sending Kevin to the devil, you know?

889
00:47:40,780 --> 00:47:42,199
 And, and this is what they're doing.

890
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:47,400
 And Mary Ellis went, yeah, she transformed in the crazy lady.

891
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,920
 She goes, they're praying to the devil.

892
00:47:50,380 --> 00:47:51,639
 They're praying to the devil.

893
00:47:51,940 --> 00:47:52,460
 She's going to go, okay.

894
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:56,079
 I go, now Mary Ellis, we're here for the gospel.

895
00:47:59,340 --> 00:48:01,440
 We got to go through a lot to share Jesus.

896
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:02,039
 Don't we?

897
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:03,920
 And she's like, okay.

898
00:48:05,079 --> 00:48:08,079
 So, so they finished and they get done and they say, okay, that's nice.

899
00:48:08,219 --> 00:48:09,599
 Now we're going to dock here in just a moment.

900
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:10,639
 Thanks everybody for coming.

901
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:13,840
 And Mary Ellis said, they're leaving me out.

902
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:15,300
 They lied to me.

903
00:48:15,460 --> 00:48:17,199
 You know, who knows what, how she had said it.

904
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,820
 She goes, they're leaving.

905
00:48:19,179 --> 00:48:23,800
 She jumped up, took the microphone away from the guy and said, now, wait a minute.

906
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,579
 You told me I'm going to share it.

907
00:48:25,579 --> 00:48:26,280
 I'm going to share.

908
00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:29,539
 I'm the last person to talk to Malcolm.

909
00:48:30,019 --> 00:48:32,619
 And Malcolm, Malcolm's coming, Kevin.

910
00:48:33,059 --> 00:48:34,460
 I'm the last person to talk to Kevin.

911
00:48:35,019 --> 00:48:37,199
 And, and I'm going to tell you what he really believed.

912
00:48:37,340 --> 00:48:39,860
 You might not know what he used to be, but I'm going to tell you what he

913
00:48:39,860 --> 00:48:41,360
 believed, what he told me he believed.

914
00:48:41,519 --> 00:48:44,639
 And she shared the gospel like only Billy Graham could.

915
00:48:47,139 --> 00:48:52,440
 And, and she's sharing it and it was like a demonic response.

916
00:48:52,940 --> 00:48:57,880
 The girl I was sitting across from who was very nice up till now, she was transformed.

917
00:48:58,119 --> 00:48:58,440
 She morphed.

918
00:48:58,880 --> 00:48:59,300
 I'll never forget.

919
00:48:59,639 --> 00:49:01,059
 She put her hands over her ears.

920
00:49:01,820 --> 00:49:04,099
 She shut her eyes really tight and he went to growling.

921
00:49:05,820 --> 00:49:06,980
 She was even possessed.

922
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,539
 It was everywhere on the boat, everywhere on the boat.

923
00:49:09,780 --> 00:49:10,739
 It was crazy.

924
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:14,619
 And then, and then she, Mary Ellis gets done and she goes, I'm going to

925
00:49:14,619 --> 00:49:15,920
 And now here's my pastor.

926
00:49:16,260 --> 00:49:18,900
 He has a bag of Bibles that he wants to give to all of you.

927
00:49:18,980 --> 00:49:24,119
 As you get off the boat, I like going, go doing this, you know, and I'm like,

928
00:49:24,119 --> 00:49:24,860
 they're going to throw them.

929
00:49:24,980 --> 00:49:25,659
 I'm not going to have to jump.

930
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,039
 They're going to throw me off now.

931
00:49:27,340 --> 00:49:27,460
 Right?

932
00:49:27,699 --> 00:49:29,920
 They were, it was crazy demonic, right?

933
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,760
 And, and nobody took a Bible.

934
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,780
 They went past me, not even looking at me, but two people did go, I'm one of you.

935
00:49:38,820 --> 00:49:41,519
 Two people whispered, I'm one of you as they got off the boat.

936
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,340
 And I'm like, what am I doing?

937
00:49:44,340 --> 00:49:47,780
 I'm this barge with my bag of Bibles.

938
00:49:47,980 --> 00:49:48,559
 Why am I here?

939
00:49:48,659 --> 00:49:52,820
 Why didn't I jump when I had the chance that I'm literally thinking that I should

940
00:49:52,820 --> 00:49:54,440
 have jumped way long time ago.

941
00:49:54,679 --> 00:49:56,019
 I could already been home for lunch, right?

942
00:49:56,619 --> 00:49:59,679
 Then Mary Ellis walks up to me with the guy in tow.

943
00:49:59,739 --> 00:50:02,219
 The guy who had been playing the keyboard walked up.

944
00:50:02,539 --> 00:50:07,199
 He was a transvestite from Kenya, from Kenya.

945
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:11,079
 Handsome guy, handsome guy, but he's transvestite from Kenya.

946
00:50:11,079 --> 00:50:14,480
 Uh, he hadn't gone through any procedures back then.

947
00:50:14,579 --> 00:50:16,079
 They just put on dresses, right?

948
00:50:16,820 --> 00:50:20,539
 Uh, so before they started maiming them, that's a whole nother wicked demonic thing.

949
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:26,840
 But it, and she goes, he's not only that he's a Christian, he's a Christian and

950
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,079
 he's been looking for a church because he's been on a fellowship since he left

951
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:30,500
 Kenya.

952
00:50:31,059 --> 00:50:33,239
 I'm like, I can see he's been on a fellowship.

953
00:50:33,679 --> 00:50:36,320
 That's pretty obvious, you know, but he was raised in a Christian.

954
00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:36,719
 All right.

955
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:38,780
 And so I said, well, nice to meet you, Malcolm.

956
00:50:39,139 --> 00:50:40,059
 You know, good to meet you.

957
00:50:40,059 --> 00:50:42,260
 And, uh, hopefully come to church tomorrow.

958
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,519
 I hope you hope you come, you know, come on to church.

959
00:50:45,019 --> 00:50:46,920
 And, and I never expected to see him again.

960
00:50:47,659 --> 00:50:48,500
 But was I wrong?

961
00:50:49,380 --> 00:50:55,920
 He showed up and boy, did he ever show up flaming his hair was curled.

962
00:50:56,380 --> 00:50:58,300
 His nails were bright red.

963
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,659
 He was flaming when he showed up.

964
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:04,820
 And he said later, he did that because he was hoping we would reject him.

965
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,460
 So he'd have an excuse not to give his life to Jesus.

966
00:51:14,139 --> 00:51:15,220
 That's why he did it.

967
00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:19,159
 He was sadly disappointed.

968
00:51:21,619 --> 00:51:23,679
 People were thrilled to see him.

969
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,119
 Nobody flinched because we're a church of new hope.

970
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:27,960
 Nobody flinched.

971
00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:33,460
 Everybody hugged him and welcomed him and his heart melted and his life melted.

972
00:51:33,460 --> 00:51:39,000
 And he right there in that service, put his faith in Jesus, gave his life to Jesus.

973
00:51:41,139 --> 00:51:44,539
 And he lived happily ever after not.

974
00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:47,760
 Then the battle started.

975
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,360
 Then the demons had to be gotten out of him.

976
00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:53,760
 Uh, we, we discipled them.

977
00:51:53,860 --> 00:51:58,559
 One of the guys in our church took him in who, you know, who one of the guys who

978
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:01,760
 has a prison minister was in prison, took him into his apartment.

979
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,440
 You know, we finally, he was such a hard thing.

980
00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:05,699
 We knew we had to get him out of there.

981
00:52:06,059 --> 00:52:08,619
 We sent him to pure life ministries, you know, pure life ministries in

982
00:52:08,619 --> 00:52:12,320
 Kentucky, super, super ministry and had him there.

983
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:13,340
 He was doing pretty well.

984
00:52:13,420 --> 00:52:14,199
 And all of a sudden he disappeared.

985
00:52:14,340 --> 00:52:15,400
 They called, said he disappeared.

986
00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:20,619
 Mel got in his car, drove down, searched the streets in Kentucky and found him.

987
00:52:21,179 --> 00:52:22,480
 Uh, brought him back.

988
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,440
 He looked like he had been through a meat grinder.

989
00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:28,480
 You know, it was unbelievable to get bring him back and we got him cleaned up

990
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,780
 and back to his senses again.

991
00:52:30,780 --> 00:52:34,280
 And, and then we sent him to teen challenge, uh, teen challenge.

992
00:52:34,420 --> 00:52:37,179
 It was like in long Island or something, send him to teen challenge.

993
00:52:37,980 --> 00:52:39,880
 And, and we got him out of there.

994
00:52:40,639 --> 00:52:43,639
 Two years later, teen challenge came to our churches.

995
00:52:43,780 --> 00:52:46,619
 Hey, we come and sing and speak and share our testimonies.

996
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,019
 And he, they showed up great ministry.

997
00:52:49,300 --> 00:52:54,320
 Uh, and they show up and Malcolm was with him.

998
00:52:54,780 --> 00:52:56,139
 He was a different person.

999
00:52:57,119 --> 00:52:59,679
 He actually shared that Sunday.

1000
00:52:59,820 --> 00:53:05,460
 They let him do the sermon, but it really was his story and how the church loved

1001
00:53:05,460 --> 00:53:12,280
 him and brought him through so much.

1002
00:53:12,679 --> 00:53:17,280
 It was powerful and it was really touching for our church, but honestly,

1003
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:22,320
 we deal with this a lot, but, but God's crazy command plus crazy

1004
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,599
 obedience equals crazy results.

1005
00:53:26,699 --> 00:53:31,059
 Will we walk by faith even when it doesn't make sense?

1006
00:53:31,260 --> 00:53:33,719
 Or will we bail out, right?

1007
00:53:34,260 --> 00:53:35,280
 Well, we bail out.

1008
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:36,900
 It's hard, isn't it?

1009
00:53:37,019 --> 00:53:37,840
 We want to bail out.

1010
00:53:38,099 --> 00:53:39,340
 My marriage isn't what it was.

1011
00:53:39,639 --> 00:53:40,679
 The kids aren't what it was.

1012
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,219
 Well, you know, and my ministry, my church, my boss, whatever, whatever.

1013
00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:46,460
 This I'm getting beat up in my temptation.

1014
00:53:46,679 --> 00:53:47,039
 I'm not winning.

1015
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,360
 We want to bail out and I see it all the time, but what will we do?

1016
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,800
 Will we, will we keep walking by faith?

1017
00:53:55,980 --> 00:54:00,619
 The last thing I want to talk to you about is my son, which I guess was on the thing

1018
00:54:00,619 --> 00:54:05,360
 there, uh, my wife, I have, uh, as you saw the picture, I have 13 kids.

1019
00:54:05,940 --> 00:54:07,500
 My first two were prodigals.

1020
00:54:07,619 --> 00:54:09,579
 By the time they got into college, they were prodigals.

1021
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,860
 I'm like, what are we doing?

1022
00:54:13,019 --> 00:54:16,380
 I said to my wife, we, I'm not doing this 11 more times.

1023
00:54:17,659 --> 00:54:18,639
 This was brutal.

1024
00:54:19,099 --> 00:54:19,920
 There were prodigals.

1025
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,219
 I just wanted to quit.

1026
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:25,239
 I want to go off to an Island somewhere and just quit.

1027
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,579
 I'm sure nobody can relate to that.

1028
00:54:28,260 --> 00:54:28,699
 All right.

1029
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,199
 Thankfully, the second prodigal Matthew came home.

1030
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,719
 He came back from college and he's like, he was shaken up by the spiritual

1031
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,739
 warfare and he came back and he returned to the Lord.

1032
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,440
 Now he's a pastor and ministry now along with a couple other.

1033
00:54:42,599 --> 00:54:43,960
 My sons are in ministry now.

1034
00:54:44,539 --> 00:54:46,940
 Uh, and all my children are following God.

1035
00:54:46,940 --> 00:54:50,860
 They were all, they have all really got very serious about their face.

1036
00:54:50,940 --> 00:54:52,219
 I'm just so thankful for that.

1037
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,559
 But my son, Ryan, the oldest one, the first prodigal dug in his heels and he

1038
00:54:56,559 --> 00:54:59,420
 just, we'd have a good little time.

1039
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,019
 Then he would go back to his other life and the drugs were involved.

1040
00:55:03,420 --> 00:55:04,699
 He wasn't really a heavy drug guy.

1041
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,539
 He was more pot and alcohol, but those are very bad.

1042
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,460
 Don't everybody believe that pot pot's demonic doorway.

1043
00:55:10,679 --> 00:55:13,159
 Let me just tell you, don't touch it.

1044
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,219
 Don't buy the lie.

1045
00:55:14,579 --> 00:55:16,519
 I'm telling you it's as demonic as any drug.

1046
00:55:16,519 --> 00:55:22,300
 And, uh, but he dug in his heels, he ended up marrying a heroin addict in

1047
00:55:22,300 --> 00:55:26,239
 Philadelphia, down in Philly, uh, near Kensington fish town.

1048
00:55:27,019 --> 00:55:31,019
 Uh, and, and they, and he would come back and almost get there.

1049
00:55:31,059 --> 00:55:32,400
 And then he would fall away and get there.

1050
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,000
 And it was like this back and forth.

1051
00:55:34,039 --> 00:55:35,179
 We were just get our hopes up.

1052
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,619
 And then he'd go back to his, not just not really the drugs, but just

1053
00:55:38,619 --> 00:55:43,619
 turning on Jesus, turning on family, turning and, and it was crazy.

1054
00:55:43,619 --> 00:55:45,579
 But finally his wife gets pregnant.

1055
00:55:46,099 --> 00:55:48,760
 His wife gets pregnant against all odds, right?

1056
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:49,380
 Heroin addict.

1057
00:55:49,780 --> 00:55:54,800
 They have a baby, but, but they, because of the drug use, the baby

1058
00:55:55,420 --> 00:55:58,460
 was taken away in the hospital and we got the baby.

1059
00:55:58,559 --> 00:55:59,340
 We got the little girl.

1060
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:00,360
 We got her.

1061
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,139
 And, uh, and not long after that, my son overdosed.

1062
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,619
 He'd used something with fentanyl.

1063
00:56:05,780 --> 00:56:07,940
 It was usually some innocuous drug, but it had fentanyl on it.

1064
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:08,380
 It killed him.

1065
00:56:08,980 --> 00:56:11,000
 And about a year later, his wife, same thing.

1066
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,199
 Fentanyl killed her.

1067
00:56:13,139 --> 00:56:13,500
 Drug use.

1068
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:14,679
 They both, they both died.

1069
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:20,360
 Now they're both gone, but, but we have this baby and you, you talk about, uh,

1070
00:56:20,380 --> 00:56:24,579
 trauma, trauma, it was unbelievable.

1071
00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:31,340
 Many parents, I've seen many parents at this point ditch it all.

1072
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,239
 Marriages break up, faith gone.

1073
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,500
 And, but we, Kim, I remember we said, you know what?

1074
00:56:39,259 --> 00:56:41,059
 We are just going to trust God.

1075
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,460
 Let's just keep trusting God.

1076
00:56:42,599 --> 00:56:44,340
 Let's just keep taking a step.

1077
00:56:45,579 --> 00:56:47,139
 We had this little baby from the hospital.

1078
00:56:47,639 --> 00:56:50,619
 She was having withdrawal for a month.

1079
00:56:50,780 --> 00:56:53,440
 She would shake, you know, all night long and we're carrying her.

1080
00:56:56,019 --> 00:56:58,159
 She had all kinds of challenges.

1081
00:56:58,780 --> 00:57:02,480
 She had trouble walking and then we had her therapy and then she's running.

1082
00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:03,440
 She had trouble talking.

1083
00:57:03,579 --> 00:57:04,079
 We got a therapist.

1084
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:05,460
 She won't shut up.

1085
00:57:05,539 --> 00:57:06,420
 Your ears are bleeding, right?

1086
00:57:06,420 --> 00:57:09,400
 But, but we went through so much trauma.

1087
00:57:09,539 --> 00:57:11,599
 She had emotional issues because of the drugs.

1088
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:12,039
 Yeah.

1089
00:57:12,059 --> 00:57:13,960
 We had her in chop because of some skin issues.

1090
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,579
 It was on and on.

1091
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,639
 And, and, and thankfully, uh, there were many challenges.

1092
00:57:19,820 --> 00:57:22,019
 What's she, oh, here's the, oh, I go back to the other picture.

1093
00:57:22,719 --> 00:57:24,820
 Do the, did they already see the first one?

1094
00:57:25,380 --> 00:57:30,079
 Yeah, this is her in the hospital with, with, you know, or initially,

1095
00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:33,320
 and you can't imagine it was just trauma, but this is her today.

1096
00:57:33,519 --> 00:57:34,619
 She's nine years old today.

1097
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:35,320
 That's her.

1098
00:57:41,980 --> 00:57:44,019
 And it was hard.

1099
00:57:44,539 --> 00:57:47,639
 I mean, we had to do some, I mean, if I showed you some videos of her throwing

1100
00:57:47,639 --> 00:57:51,019
 temper tantrums, she could throw enough for 10 children.

1101
00:57:51,500 --> 00:57:53,539
 It was crazy, but she's unbelievable.

1102
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,059
 Now a lot of hard work, the whole family pitching in.

1103
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,840
 She's gifted in every area.

1104
00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:02,500
 You can imagine she's a super athlete.

1105
00:58:02,699 --> 00:58:03,739
 She's academic, everything.

1106
00:58:03,739 --> 00:58:10,460
 But, but the point is it was brutal and it would have been easy to quit it.

1107
00:58:10,699 --> 00:58:13,320
 But, but, uh, she's such a blessing.

1108
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,639
 And the best part is that, I mean, we're so close to the world and I,

1109
00:58:16,940 --> 00:58:19,239
 but she's a piece of my son.

1110
00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:28,019
 I can't stay sad too long because she's right there in my face, right there.

1111
00:58:28,139 --> 00:58:32,619
 My face in God opened the door to minister to many people through this

1112
00:58:32,619 --> 00:58:35,079
 whole trial and beyond the memorial service.

1113
00:58:35,219 --> 00:58:39,000
 The entire community showed up, uh, everybody was there and they heard

1114
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,519
 the gospel over and over.

1115
00:58:40,619 --> 00:58:41,800
 It's like the Charlie Kirk funeral.

1116
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:42,619
 They kept doing the gospel.

1117
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,760
 This was led this funeral gospel, gospel, gospel, gospel.

1118
00:58:45,900 --> 00:58:47,320
 It was just, it was just amazing.

1119
00:58:48,019 --> 00:58:49,360
 And the community was impacted.

1120
00:58:49,460 --> 00:58:50,539
 Our kids were impacted.

1121
00:58:50,699 --> 00:58:53,719
 I can't tell you how they're just, you'd be shocked if you, they're

1122
00:58:53,719 --> 00:58:57,219
 all in some ministry missions, doing so many different things.

1123
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,980
 And, and also Laurel is, is doing just amazing in every way.

1124
00:59:01,980 --> 00:59:04,380
 Um, and the impact continues.

1125
00:59:05,559 --> 00:59:09,260
 I, uh, then wrote, uh, I felt led to write a book.

1126
00:59:09,380 --> 00:59:12,780
 I actually had a dream like 30 years ago now about this story.

1127
00:59:13,159 --> 00:59:14,820
 And, and I'm dreamed it.

1128
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:15,980
 And I got up, I was so moved.

1129
00:59:16,059 --> 00:59:17,420
 I got up and I wrote the story down.

1130
00:59:17,639 --> 00:59:20,980
 And then after my son died, I, I showed it to my kids and they

1131
00:59:20,980 --> 00:59:24,059
 said, you should write this story because it's about remembering someone

1132
00:59:24,059 --> 00:59:26,400
 that you lost and healing after that memory.

1133
00:59:26,579 --> 00:59:29,699
 And it looks like a kid's book, but it's really, uh, it's really for everybody.

1134
00:59:30,220 --> 00:59:34,179
 But especially if there's a child who's lost someone, it's really perfect

1135
00:59:34,179 --> 00:59:37,820
 for them or if a parent lost a child, perfect, but I'm getting messages

1136
00:59:37,820 --> 00:59:41,239
 from all over the world, from people from all different places.

1137
00:59:42,779 --> 00:59:45,860
 Um, it's, uh, I think there's a picture.

1138
00:59:46,239 --> 00:59:50,900
 Yeah, it's called, uh, I wrote this called Merle's sweatshirt and, um,

1139
00:59:51,039 --> 00:59:53,559
 it's about remembering those you loved and lost and still love.

1140
00:59:54,159 --> 00:59:56,579
 Uh, in the back, there's a whole another story where I connect the

1141
00:59:56,579 --> 00:59:59,619
 dots to our story, but it's not about our story, but at the end,

1142
00:59:59,619 --> 01:00:02,519
 I do connect the dots a little bit, but my daughter that made some

1143
01:00:02,519 --> 01:00:07,400
 videos that she posted, she put it on Instagram and Facebook and YouTube

1144
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:12,579
 and, uh, I want to use a TikTok, she goes, dad, you're going to reach

1145
01:00:12,579 --> 01:00:14,619
 a whole different group of people.

1146
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,320
 It's like, you know, and she's right.

1147
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,980
 I go into any, I go into a sewer to reach people, you know, I go into gay bars,

1148
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:23,360
 you know, uh, I said, okay, it's not, and it's amazing who you can reach

1149
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,900
 on all these different ways of reaching.

1150
01:00:25,900 --> 01:00:30,400
 And the, the videos ended up reaching millions of people.

1151
01:00:30,699 --> 01:00:35,699
 I think we're up to 7 million views now on the video and, and, and, and the

1152
01:00:35,699 --> 01:00:40,280
 book plot, the videos plus the book kind of converge to help people.

1153
01:00:40,619 --> 01:00:44,079
 Some just the videos, some of the books, I'm getting thousands of messages.

1154
01:00:44,599 --> 01:00:48,659
 When I say from all over the world, I mean, all over the world, it's crazy.

1155
01:00:48,940 --> 01:00:52,780
 The messages that we're getting and it's, it's such a simple, simple

1156
01:00:52,780 --> 01:00:58,960
 thing, helping people heal from loss and God's part of this process, obviously.

1157
01:00:59,579 --> 01:01:01,659
 And I'll just show you one of the videos my daughter did.

1158
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,860
 It's my favorite out of all the ones she did about Laurel and I.

1159
01:01:05,980 --> 01:01:08,119
 So I'll just show that little clip here.

1160
01:01:08,639 --> 01:01:09,159
 All right.

1161
01:01:09,340 --> 01:01:11,659
 Hi, I'm Chuck Wilson with Merle's sweatshirt.

1162
01:01:11,940 --> 01:01:14,519
 I got my sweatshirt on today and also the book here.

1163
01:01:15,139 --> 01:01:17,619
 And I just want to say thank you to everybody who's been so

1164
01:01:17,619 --> 01:01:19,239
 encouraging on TikTok.

1165
01:01:19,500 --> 01:01:20,539
 I mean, I, it's unbelievable.

1166
01:01:21,179 --> 01:01:23,679
 I just like, I feel so close to everybody.

1167
01:01:24,119 --> 01:01:25,179
 I just want to hug everyone.

1168
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:25,820
 It's unbelievable.

1169
01:01:26,059 --> 01:01:29,980
 You guys have been so encouraging and I'm so touched that the story is touching you.

1170
01:01:30,539 --> 01:01:32,639
 I just wanted to connect some dots here.

1171
01:01:33,019 --> 01:01:36,980
 Um, at the end of the book, sometimes people finish the book and they don't turn

1172
01:01:36,980 --> 01:01:41,260
 the page because as you turn the page, you see a whole rest of the story.

1173
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,019
 That's very important connecting the dots.

1174
01:01:43,699 --> 01:01:47,059
 And the first part is that I talked about a dream, how I actually

1175
01:01:47,059 --> 01:01:48,980
 dreamed this book 25 years ago.

1176
01:01:48,980 --> 01:01:53,699
 Never realizing how 25 years later it would intersect with my life.

1177
01:01:54,380 --> 01:01:58,239
 And so the way that happened is our son, this is a picture of our son,

1178
01:01:58,500 --> 01:02:00,420
 Ryan with a little baby in his arms.

1179
01:02:00,739 --> 01:02:05,420
 But right after this picture, he passed away and then his wife did too.

1180
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:10,139
 That's a whole nother story for a whole nother TikTok, but it just

1181
01:02:10,139 --> 01:02:12,119
 was such a devastating thing.

1182
01:02:12,340 --> 01:02:15,719
 But the amazing thing from that is sad as it was.

1183
01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:16,940
 And we still are so sad.

1184
01:02:16,940 --> 01:02:21,579
 And my wife and I are very, very sad all the time, but we have this whole other

1185
01:02:21,579 --> 01:02:23,079
 side, this whole other blessing.

1186
01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:26,260
 And that's the little girl came to live with us.

1187
01:02:26,599 --> 01:02:27,960
 And here she is now.

1188
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:29,139
 Here she is.

1189
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:34,539
 She just turned eight years old and she's just such a joy to us and all of our kids.

1190
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,739
 We have 13 kids.

1191
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 And when we lost one, we were down to 12, but with Laurel adopted

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01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:43,179
 now, we have lucky 13 again.

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01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,480
 So she just been such a blessing.

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01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:46,800
 All right.

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01:02:49,099 --> 01:02:51,400
 So a couple of things I wanted to share too.

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01:02:51,619 --> 01:03:00,639
 Um, it, it, when we adopted her, it just was such a blessing because we went

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01:03:00,639 --> 01:03:05,300
 from this incredible sadness to this happiness at the same time, it's hard

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01:03:05,300 --> 01:03:09,760
 to explain, but that's really what grief is, is we have these so sad,

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01:03:09,780 --> 01:03:13,900
 missing someone, and yet at the same time we have these happy memories of them.

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01:03:13,900 --> 01:03:15,900
 And we talked about the sweatshirt.

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01:03:16,179 --> 01:03:19,719
 Laurel is my sweatshirt and Laurel is all of our sweatshirts now.

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01:03:19,820 --> 01:03:24,699
 She's one who really just brings some joy out of that intense pain and sadness.

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01:03:25,639 --> 01:03:31,659
 And I hope that both of these stories, the story of, of, of Merle and then

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01:03:31,659 --> 01:03:36,800
 also the story of little Laurel will just encourage you because I know so many

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01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,960
 of you are remembering and grieving and sad, but it would just bring some.

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01:03:41,940 --> 01:03:47,340
 Reminder that you can still have that, that happiness and great memories

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01:03:47,340 --> 01:03:50,079
 in the midst of that, and I hope that's what encourages you.

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01:03:50,340 --> 01:03:52,239
 And a lot of people were asking about sweatshirts.

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01:03:53,199 --> 01:03:55,699
 So, uh, every say, can I get a sweatshirt?

1210
01:03:55,900 --> 01:03:56,739
 We're going to work on it.

1211
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:57,519
 I'm going to have to work on it.

1212
01:03:57,619 --> 01:03:59,360
 I told my wife, we got to get sweatshirts going.

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01:03:59,420 --> 01:04:00,559
 So we're going to do our best for that.

1214
01:04:00,639 --> 01:04:00,860
 Okay.

1215
01:04:01,159 --> 01:04:02,119
 But thank you so much.

1216
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:06,159
 I love reading about how the book is really encouraging you and

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01:04:06,159 --> 01:04:07,079
 helping you with healing.

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01:04:08,099 --> 01:04:08,280
 God bless.

1219
01:04:12,739 --> 01:04:18,679
 So that's, uh, that this happened all because we didn't bail out.

1220
01:04:19,219 --> 01:04:20,519
 We didn't bail out.

1221
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:24,579
 We, if we had bailed out, what would we have messed all along the way?

1222
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:26,579
 Uh, I did bring some books.

1223
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:31,840
 I put some on the back table, um, and, and make sure you read the, in the

1224
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,880
 back of the book where it tells the story there, if, if I'm not trying

1225
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,139
 to make money, I'm, I'm just trying to replace, uh, all I'm trying to do

1226
01:04:39,139 --> 01:04:41,739
 is keep ordering books to give my wife is like, we're never going to

1227
01:04:41,739 --> 01:04:42,480
 make money on these books.

1228
01:04:42,619 --> 01:04:44,500
 Everybody I go, no, we're going to keep using it for ministry.

1229
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,699
 But, but if anybody wants one, you can, if you want to throw $10 into

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01:04:48,699 --> 01:04:50,159
 the box under the table, that's fine.

1231
01:04:50,340 --> 01:04:51,380
 If not, you don't have money.

1232
01:04:51,500 --> 01:04:51,960
 It's no problem.

1233
01:04:52,219 --> 01:04:52,860
 Take a book.

1234
01:04:53,079 --> 01:04:53,179
 All right.

1235
01:04:53,219 --> 01:04:56,480
 People are constantly buying me groups of books so that I can give them out.

1236
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:00,619
 So if you know someone who needs a book and you want to bring one to them,

1237
01:05:00,860 --> 01:05:02,260
 there's some hard covers, soft covers.

1238
01:05:02,780 --> 01:05:06,219
 And if you ever need more, cause, uh, you know, I may never be back here again,

1239
01:05:06,500 --> 01:05:08,039
 but you go on prime.

1240
01:05:08,039 --> 01:05:11,719
 I know the evil empire prime, Amazon prime, but they're selling the books

1241
01:05:11,719 --> 01:05:13,380
 unbelievably inexpensive.

1242
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,179
 So I tell everybody use the prime because you get them, you get them cheaper

1243
01:05:17,179 --> 01:05:19,019
 there than you can offer for my publisher.

1244
01:05:19,179 --> 01:05:19,739
 It's crazy.

1245
01:05:20,380 --> 01:05:24,000
 So, um, I don't know how they do it, but anyway, uh, if you need them, but,

1246
01:05:24,260 --> 01:05:28,360
 but if you want books, grab, grab one, grab a couple and, uh, you know,

1247
01:05:28,500 --> 01:05:29,539
 use them for ministry.

1248
01:05:29,539 --> 01:05:30,599
 That that's great.

1249
01:05:31,119 --> 01:05:33,739
 But where is God calling you?

1250
01:05:34,820 --> 01:05:37,900
 Where, where, what crazy step is he calling us to take?

1251
01:05:38,039 --> 01:05:42,039
 Will we bail out or follow what spiritual lesson is he working on in us?

1252
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,639
 The patients, the faith, the patients, the perseverance.

1253
01:05:46,019 --> 01:05:47,719
 Maybe he's calling you to put your faith in Christ.

1254
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:49,139
 I don't want to assume everybody here's a Christian.

1255
01:05:49,460 --> 01:05:53,239
 Maybe he's calling you to put your faith in our Joshua to take a step of faith

1256
01:05:53,239 --> 01:05:55,099
 and put your faith in our Joshua.

1257
01:05:55,559 --> 01:05:56,860
 Jesus, Joshua is Jesus.

1258
01:05:57,219 --> 01:06:00,280
 The arc that they follow through as a picture of the work of Christ,

1259
01:06:00,679 --> 01:06:04,480
 what he did with his death and resurrection, what he accomplished on the

1260
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,940
 cross, it's all a picture Joshua crossing the Jordan.

1261
01:06:07,940 --> 01:06:10,420
 It is a picture of Jesus death, resurrection.

1262
01:06:10,820 --> 01:06:14,380
 He, Jesus was baptized in that same exact spot where, where they,

1263
01:06:14,380 --> 01:06:18,820
 they cross there and just like Israelites, we must follow our Joshua,

1264
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:20,159
 Jesus Christ.

1265
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:21,760
 We have to take a step of faith.

1266
01:06:21,900 --> 01:06:24,719
 I always end everything I ever do with John three 16.

1267
01:06:25,059 --> 01:06:27,500
 Why not John three 16 for God.

1268
01:06:27,820 --> 01:06:31,960
 So love the world that he gave his one and only son that whoever

1269
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:36,219
 believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

1270
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:37,320
 Let's pray.

1271
01:06:42,039 --> 01:06:44,719
 How is God speaking to us?

1272
01:06:46,519 --> 01:06:49,980
 Maybe you're here and you've never put your faith in Jesus Christ.

1273
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,800
 You've never given your life to him.

1274
01:06:54,239 --> 01:06:59,739
 You've never followed our Joshua through that river of judgment and

1275
01:06:59,739 --> 01:07:02,380
 death into real life.

1276
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,980
 But you can take that step of faith right now.

1277
01:07:06,980 --> 01:07:08,340
 It happens in our heart.

1278
01:07:08,420 --> 01:07:11,860
 We put our faith in Jesus in our heart, but I just encourage people

1279
01:07:11,860 --> 01:07:16,059
 to, to pray a prayer of faith, to put an exclamation point on that.

1280
01:07:17,380 --> 01:07:19,579
 The biblical, simple prayer of faith.

1281
01:07:19,780 --> 01:07:21,559
 God, I repent.

1282
01:07:23,300 --> 01:07:26,300
 I repent of everything in my life that is sin.

1283
01:07:29,380 --> 01:07:33,500
 I repent of everything in my life that goes against your word and

1284
01:07:33,500 --> 01:07:35,340
 your purpose for my life.

1285
01:07:40,500 --> 01:07:43,659
 Please forgive me.

1286
01:07:49,700 --> 01:07:55,800
 Forgive me because I'm putting my faith in your son, Jesus Christ.

1287
01:07:57,780 --> 01:08:02,820
 My total trust, my total hope and his death on the cross to wash me clean,

1288
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,039
 his resurrection from the dead to give me a new life.

1289
01:08:06,039 --> 01:08:09,059
 I put my faith in Jesus Christ.

1290
01:08:12,219 --> 01:08:13,880
 I give my life to him.

1291
01:08:23,180 --> 01:08:26,300
 If you have prayed that prayer of faith today, I want to encourage

1292
01:08:26,300 --> 01:08:29,899
 you not to leave here without telling somebody, tell pastor Chris,

1293
01:08:30,079 --> 01:08:34,800
 tell me, tell your buddy next to you, tell somebody so that we can be

1294
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,539
 excited for you and help you grow in your new life in Christ.

1295
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,140
 For those of us who have already put our faith in Christ, what, how

1296
01:08:43,140 --> 01:08:44,800
 was the Holy Spirit speaking to us?

1297
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:45,760
 Maybe we're ready to quit.

1298
01:08:46,180 --> 01:08:47,260
 Maybe we're ready to bail out.

1299
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,539
 Maybe not outwardly, but inwardly.

1300
01:08:50,460 --> 01:08:52,140
 How is God working in our life?

1301
01:08:52,260 --> 01:08:55,199
 What step of faith is he calling us to take?

1302
01:08:56,819 --> 01:09:00,399
 Will we surrender to what he's calling us to do?

1303
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:08,319
 Will we let him work on an area of our life, our faith or our patience or our

1304
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:12,699
 perseverance, say God, finish it, finish this, what you're, what you're

1305
01:09:12,699 --> 01:09:14,619
 starting in me, finish it.

1306
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,619
 Father, I pray that for every one of us, Lord, we're all struggle.

1307
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:20,420
 We all battle.

1308
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:22,699
 It's never going to end until we get to heaven someday.

1309
01:09:23,100 --> 01:09:26,779
 But Lord, I just pray that this group of guys could really build each

1310
01:09:26,779 --> 01:09:28,239
 other up and encourage each other.

1311
01:09:28,239 --> 01:09:34,000
 And Lord, I just pray that, uh, that we would not quit that every person here,

1312
01:09:36,699 --> 01:09:38,399
 every person here would finish.

1313
01:09:38,699 --> 01:09:41,380
 Well, you pray that in Jesus name.

1314
01:09:56,079 --> 01:10:01,520
 Thanks for joining us at Lansdale Life Church as we praise God and discuss his

1315
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:01,880
 word.

1316
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:06,680
 Don't forget to join us for worship live Sunday mornings at 10 a.m.

1317
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,039
 Eastern on YouTube.

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01:10:09,060 --> 01:10:11,119
 Be blessed and have a great day.