1 00:00:14,119 --> 00:00:17,359 Welcome to the Lansdale Life Church podcast. 2 00:00:18,379 --> 00:00:24,100 If you're seeking a closer relationship with Jesus Christ, this podcast is for you. 3 00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:27,019 Thank you for joining us today. 4 00:00:34,980 --> 00:00:44,100 All right, so thank you for coming out here tonight. And I think we're in for a special evening. 5 00:00:45,679 --> 00:00:50,920 My wife and I, we like to, we often will pray before we get on a flight. 6 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,859 And we just pray that we'll have good conversation with whoever we sit next to. 7 00:00:56,140 --> 00:01:03,000 And so we're on a flight to Colorado. My grandmother, who was 103, passed away, 8 00:01:03,619 --> 00:01:07,000 but she lived a good, good, long life. But that was back in November of last year. 9 00:01:08,259 --> 00:01:14,859 And so as we were flying out to Colorado, we met, we started talking with the guy next to us 10 00:01:14,859 --> 00:01:23,579 and to learn that he was a pastor from the Ukraine. And we just had a great conversation 11 00:01:24,119 --> 00:01:32,819 and we have kept in touch over this past year a little bit. And Pastor Dmytro, 12 00:01:33,340 --> 00:01:39,379 he likes to be called Dima, is back in the States here. He's going to be, 13 00:01:39,379 --> 00:01:45,540 he was here for a week. There was a big Ukrainian pastors conference in Philadelphia. 14 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,200 And he's going to go out to Cincinnati, has some connections out there, 15 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:56,439 before he heads back to the Ukraine on Monday. But what we're going to do tonight, thanks for 16 00:01:56,439 --> 00:01:59,739 coming out, because I think it's going to be a very informative night. I think it's going to be a 17 00:01:59,739 --> 00:02:05,980 night that we find out what our brothers and sisters are going through in the Ukraine, 18 00:02:06,540 --> 00:02:14,360 other believers. And we can learn how to pray for them and understand what their life is like. 19 00:02:16,020 --> 00:02:20,319 So we're going to have a time of worship here. Andrew's going to lead us in a couple songs. 20 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:28,080 And then Dima is going to share from the word of God, something that God put on his heart 21 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:34,180 here for tonight. And then he's going to share a little bit about himself, share some slides here, 22 00:02:34,180 --> 00:02:41,000 and then we're going to have a question and answer time. So have your questions ready. I'm sure 23 00:02:41,780 --> 00:02:48,800 if you're like me, you know there's a war going on. It's in the news very often, but most of us 24 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,680 don't know somebody from the Ukraine or from Russia. And so we have somebody here that can 25 00:02:53,680 --> 00:03:01,000 answer some questions for us. After that question and answer time, I want to stop by about 8.05 26 00:03:01,659 --> 00:03:09,960 in an hour. And Dima has four specific prayer points, and then we're going to join together 27 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:17,539 in prayer for some of those things. So let's just pray, and then we'll have a time of worship. 28 00:03:18,060 --> 00:03:30,979 Lord God, we just thank you for tonight. Praise you, God, that you're not just a God of the 29 00:03:30,979 --> 00:03:37,319 and you love us, and you want us united, Lord God. We pray that what happens tonight 30 00:03:38,100 --> 00:03:45,360 will be part of this uniting of your church. And the world will know that you are God, 31 00:03:45,580 --> 00:03:52,080 as we love each other and are united. So we pray that that happens tonight. We just 32 00:03:52,080 --> 00:04:03,240 invite you here tonight in Jesus' name, amen. You can feel free to sit or stand or worship, however 33 00:04:04,139 --> 00:04:16,480 you want. Let's sing, so I throw up my hands. 34 00:04:34,840 --> 00:04:39,959 Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, 35 00:04:39,959 --> 00:04:51,220 Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, 36 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:07,700 Hallelujah. O my words offshore, I got nothing new. 37 00:05:08,220 --> 00:05:17,139 How could I express all my gratitude? 38 00:05:19,579 --> 00:05:28,220 I could sing these songs as I often do 39 00:05:29,220 --> 00:05:32,740 That every song must end 40 00:05:32,740 --> 00:05:37,199 And you never will do 41 00:05:38,220 --> 00:05:41,300 So I throw up my hands 42 00:05:41,300 --> 00:05:44,980 And praise you again and again 43 00:05:46,220 --> 00:05:54,180 Cause all that I have is a hallelujah 44 00:05:57,199 --> 00:05:58,420 Hallelujah 45 00:05:58,420 --> 00:06:00,879 And I know it's not much 46 00:06:00,879 --> 00:06:04,920 Got nothing else fit for a king 47 00:06:06,180 --> 00:06:13,180 Except for hearts singing Hallelujah 48 00:06:19,219 --> 00:06:20,439 Hallelujah 49 00:06:22,620 --> 00:06:25,300 So come on my soul 50 00:06:25,300 --> 00:06:28,639 Oh don't you get shy on me 51 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:30,459 Lift up your soul 52 00:06:30,459 --> 00:06:33,079 And you've got a lie 53 00:06:33,079 --> 00:06:35,899 And it's not out of those arms 54 00:06:35,899 --> 00:06:40,259 Get up and praise the Lord 55 00:06:40,259 --> 00:06:41,420 Hey 56 00:06:42,819 --> 00:06:45,519 Oh come on my soul 57 00:06:45,519 --> 00:06:48,439 Oh don't you get shy on me 58 00:06:48,879 --> 00:06:50,420 Lift up your soul 59 00:06:50,420 --> 00:06:52,980 And you've got a lie 60 00:06:52,980 --> 00:06:55,779 And it's not out of those arms 61 00:06:55,779 --> 00:06:59,860 Get up and praise the Lord 62 00:06:59,860 --> 00:07:00,980 Hey 63 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,199 Come on my soul 64 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:08,319 Oh don't you get shy on me 65 00:07:08,319 --> 00:07:10,019 Lift up your soul 66 00:07:10,019 --> 00:07:12,579 And you've got a lie 67 00:07:12,579 --> 00:07:15,360 And it's not out of those arms 68 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:20,879 Get up and praise the Lord 69 00:07:22,439 --> 00:07:24,759 Come on my soul 70 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,560 Oh don't you get shy 71 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,319 And we lift up your soul 72 00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:32,579 And you've got a lie 73 00:07:32,579 --> 00:07:35,220 And it's not out of those arms 74 00:07:35,220 --> 00:07:40,920 Get up and praise the Lord 75 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,319 So I throw my hands 76 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:48,939 And praise you again and again 77 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:57,959 Cause all that I have is Hallelujah 78 00:08:01,779 --> 00:08:02,879 Hallelujah 79 00:08:02,879 --> 00:08:05,519 I know we've got hearts 80 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:08,879 Nothing else fit for a king 81 00:08:09,879 --> 00:08:18,220 Except for hearts making Hallelujah 82 00:08:23,580 --> 00:08:25,860 Hallelujah 83 00:08:29,879 --> 00:08:38,120 Except for hearts making Hallelujah 84 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,279 Hallelujah 85 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,700 Except for hearts 86 00:08:49,700 --> 00:08:58,360 Except for hearts singing Hallelujah 87 00:09:02,340 --> 00:09:04,940 Hallelujah 88 00:09:05,940 --> 00:09:14,580 I can't wash away my sin 89 00:09:14,580 --> 00:09:22,120 Nothing but the blood of Jesus 90 00:09:22,940 --> 00:09:30,779 I can't make me all again 91 00:09:31,779 --> 00:09:38,279 Nothing but the blood of Jesus 92 00:09:39,779 --> 00:09:47,799 Oh, gracious is the flow 93 00:09:47,799 --> 00:09:55,960 That make me white as snow 94 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:04,120 No other founts at home 95 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:11,019 Nothing but the blood of Jesus 96 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:19,559 Holy precious is the flow 97 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:28,980 That makes me white as snow 98 00:10:28,980 --> 00:10:36,360 No other founts at home 99 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:42,980 Nothing but the blood of Jesus 100 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,740 I can't make you cleanse me from my sin 101 00:10:54,700 --> 00:10:57,620 Nothing but the blood of Jesus 102 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:01,080 Oh, Lord, I'm so grateful 103 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,279 For your blood 104 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,940 For your blood 105 00:11:14,939 --> 00:11:23,720 No other founts at home 106 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:31,200 No other founts at home 107 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:39,759 No other founts at home 108 00:11:39,759 --> 00:11:39,919 Nothing but the blood of Jesus 109 00:11:40,919 --> 00:11:47,059 Nothing but the blood of Jesus 110 00:11:47,919 --> 00:11:55,419 Oh, Lord, I'm so grateful 111 00:12:19,759 --> 00:12:27,539 Oh, precious is the flow 112 00:12:27,539 --> 00:12:34,980 That makes me white as snow 113 00:12:34,980 --> 00:12:43,919 No other founts at home 114 00:12:43,919 --> 00:12:50,080 Nothing but the blood of Jesus 115 00:12:52,980 --> 00:12:56,019 You are worthy of it all 116 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,860 You are worthy of it all 117 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,919 For from you are all things 118 00:13:11,919 --> 00:13:15,700 And to you are all things 119 00:13:15,700 --> 00:13:19,500 You deserve the glory 120 00:13:23,019 --> 00:13:29,620 You are worthy of it all 121 00:13:29,620 --> 00:13:35,500 You are worthy of it all 122 00:13:39,700 --> 00:13:43,220 For from you are all things 123 00:13:43,220 --> 00:13:47,419 And to you are all things 124 00:13:47,419 --> 00:13:50,779 You deserve the glory 125 00:13:51,420 --> 00:13:55,220 That's Jesus, all the glory is yours God 126 00:13:56,420 --> 00:13:58,840 You deserve the glory 127 00:14:03,420 --> 00:14:06,840 You deserve the glory 128 00:14:10,179 --> 00:14:14,519 You deserve the glory 129 00:14:18,079 --> 00:14:23,840 You deserve the glory 130 00:14:27,379 --> 00:14:31,879 Day and night, night and day 131 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,480 Day and night, night and day 132 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:47,379 Day and night, night and day 133 00:14:47,379 --> 00:14:49,320 Day and night, night and day 134 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:56,559 Day and night, night and day 135 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:04,120 You are worthy of it all 136 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:16,240 You are worthy of it all 137 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,299 For from you are all things 138 00:15:20,299 --> 00:15:24,460 And to you are all things 139 00:15:24,460 --> 00:15:28,279 You deserve the glory 140 00:15:32,199 --> 00:15:35,460 You are worthy of it all 141 00:15:40,460 --> 00:15:44,039 You are worthy of it all 142 00:15:45,460 --> 00:15:47,960 Only you are worthy 143 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,980 For from you are all things 144 00:15:51,980 --> 00:15:55,840 And to you are all things 145 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:00,159 You deserve the glory 146 00:16:21,980 --> 00:16:36,120 Demas had a long day. He's we were out on the road at 6 o'clock this morning. We went to Lancaster to the YWAM piece where my daughter's at and got to join in with their worship time out there. 147 00:16:36,279 --> 00:16:39,240 And they were praying for Ukraine there. So that was pretty neat. 148 00:16:40,860 --> 00:16:49,799 And let's see. I've enjoyed getting Demetra. He stayed overnight last night and just enjoying getting to know him better. 149 00:16:49,799 --> 00:16:55,759 He prayed in English for the first time last night. So that was pretty cool. 150 00:16:56,799 --> 00:17:11,380 And so he's an associate pastor of New Life Church in a town called Ivano Frankes, which is about five hours west of Kiev. 151 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:18,500 So let's give it up for Pastor Demetro and Drusov. 152 00:17:24,740 --> 00:17:25,859 Hello there Church. 153 00:17:27,599 --> 00:17:37,900 I'm really glad to be here and thank God that gave me the possibility to stay here and share what God is doing in Ukraine during this war. 154 00:17:38,900 --> 00:17:48,420 So a few words about me. So my name is Demetro and I'm from Ukraine. I'm an associate pastor at New Life Church in one of Frankivsk. 155 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:57,000 And I have been married to my wife Natalia for 18 years. And God has blessed us with four kids. 156 00:17:58,900 --> 00:18:02,680 And also I will talk more about it a little bit later. 157 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:14,940 But before I tell you a little about our Church, I want to share what God put in my heart. 158 00:18:15,940 --> 00:18:24,640 And I propose you to read John chapter 13, verses 34 and 35. 159 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:31,000 Chapter 13, verses 34 and 35. 160 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,220 Jesus says, 161 00:18:50,039 --> 00:19:00,400 So these words are very important. Jesus said them shortly before he went to the cross. Think about this. 162 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:09,759 If you knew that in a few days you were going to die, what would you say to the people closest to you? 163 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:17,400 Probably something very important. You would not waste your time talking about small things. 164 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:25,319 And here, shortly before the cross, Jesus tells his disciples, love one another. 165 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,960 I believe we can see three important things in these words. 166 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:35,960 The first, Jesus makes love a command. 167 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,819 First Jesus says, 168 00:19:43,779 --> 00:19:49,500 Jesus does not say, it would be good if you would love one another. 169 00:19:50,079 --> 00:19:54,700 And he does not say, love each other when it's easy. 170 00:19:55,700 --> 00:20:00,200 He calls it a command. And command is not an option. 171 00:20:01,839 --> 00:20:06,079 As Christians, we take the commands of Jesus seriously. 172 00:20:07,279 --> 00:20:11,099 Here Jesus gives us a very clear command, love one another. 173 00:20:11,700 --> 00:20:18,559 And this is not always easy. It is easy to love someone who is kind to us. 174 00:20:18,900 --> 00:20:21,460 It is easy to love someone who agrees with us. 175 00:20:22,340 --> 00:20:25,960 But what about someone who disappoints us? 176 00:20:27,220 --> 00:20:29,720 What about someone who thinks differently? 177 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,579 What about someone who hearts us? 178 00:20:34,079 --> 00:20:37,140 Jesus still says, love one another. 179 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:43,539 So love is not only something we feel, love is also something we choose. 180 00:20:45,399 --> 00:20:51,299 So second, Jesus does not only tell us to love, to love. 181 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,200 He shows us how. 182 00:20:54,099 --> 00:20:55,859 How we should love one another. 183 00:20:56,319 --> 00:21:01,680 He says, I have loved you, so you must love one another. 184 00:21:02,980 --> 00:21:05,220 This is the standard. 185 00:21:06,059 --> 00:21:09,079 We should love people the way Jesus loved us. 186 00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:12,000 And how Jesus loves us. 187 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,200 His love was sacrificial. 188 00:21:16,819 --> 00:21:19,279 His love was not based on his mood. 189 00:21:19,980 --> 00:21:23,539 His love was not based on whether people deserved it. 190 00:21:24,220 --> 00:21:27,700 Jesus served people. Jesus forgave people. 191 00:21:28,460 --> 00:21:30,539 Jesus gave his time to people. 192 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,539 And finally, Jesus gave his life for us on the cross. 193 00:21:36,740 --> 00:21:42,440 Jesus, before this conversation, Jesus washed the feet of his disciples. 194 00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:47,279 He was their Lord, but he served them. 195 00:21:48,319 --> 00:21:51,880 He even knew that people would deny him. 196 00:21:52,619 --> 00:21:58,039 He knew his disciples were not perfect, but he loved them. 197 00:21:58,740 --> 00:22:02,579 This is the kind of love Jesus is talking about. 198 00:22:02,579 --> 00:22:10,180 Christian love is not only a feeling, it is decision to follow the example of Jesus. 199 00:22:12,420 --> 00:22:14,660 So, and the last one. 200 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:21,019 Love between the disciples, disciples of Jesus, has a purpose. 201 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:29,940 Jesus says, why does everyone will know that you are my disciples if you love one another? 202 00:22:30,940 --> 00:22:33,440 Notice that Jesus speaks about everyone. 203 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,000 He is talking about people outside the church too. 204 00:22:38,019 --> 00:22:41,519 People are watching how Christians live. 205 00:22:42,380 --> 00:22:44,680 They are watching how we treat each other. 206 00:22:45,279 --> 00:22:48,940 They are watching how we respond where there is conflict. 207 00:22:49,859 --> 00:22:51,740 They are watching where we forgive. 208 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,779 They are watching whether we care for each other. 209 00:22:55,779 --> 00:23:00,880 And Jesus says that our love can show people that we belong to him. 210 00:23:02,279 --> 00:23:06,319 Two thousand years ago, people could see Jesus with their own eyes. 211 00:23:07,380 --> 00:23:09,960 They could see how he treated people. 212 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,640 They could see his kindness. 213 00:23:13,099 --> 00:23:14,819 They could see his compassion. 214 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:16,539 They could see his love. 215 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,359 Today, Jesus is not physically walking through our city and streets. 216 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,880 But people can still see something of Jesus through his disciples. 217 00:23:28,380 --> 00:23:35,839 Through us, when we love, when we forgive, when we serve, when we care for one another. 218 00:23:37,299 --> 00:23:40,599 Our love becomes a testimony. 219 00:23:41,900 --> 00:23:46,180 So, before I finish, I want to leave us with one simple question. 220 00:23:46,779 --> 00:23:51,160 When people look at my life, can they see something of Jesus? 221 00:23:52,619 --> 00:24:01,980 Not only in what I say, not only because I go to church, but in the way I treat other people. 222 00:24:02,819 --> 00:24:07,119 Jesus said, by this everyone will know that you are my disciples. 223 00:24:07,859 --> 00:24:09,720 If you love one another. 224 00:24:12,479 --> 00:24:15,440 So, maybe not only speak about Jesus. 225 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,539 May people see the love of Jesus through our life. 226 00:24:19,539 --> 00:24:20,440 Amen. 227 00:24:27,539 --> 00:24:32,420 Now, I want to share with you a little bit about my church, New Life Church. 228 00:24:33,259 --> 00:24:46,319 And before I share this information, I want to show you some short movie that explains why our church called it New Life. 229 00:24:49,539 --> 00:25:02,339 Is it possible? Yeah. 230 00:25:02,339 --> 00:25:07,019 New Life is more than just words. 231 00:25:07,380 --> 00:25:10,259 It's the story of each of us. 232 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:18,240 It reflects God's work in the lives of people who met in one place to fulfill their calling together by following Christ. 233 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:24,319 For some, New Life began with moving to a new city because of the war. 234 00:25:25,059 --> 00:25:27,539 It was difficult, uncertain, and lonely. 235 00:25:28,259 --> 00:25:35,319 But right there, God gave new hope, a new community, and a new home, both in the heart and in life. 236 00:25:36,220 --> 00:25:41,000 Some started families, found their other half, received God's blessing through marriage, 237 00:25:41,460 --> 00:25:47,000 and a New Life began no longer alone, but together in unity with God. 238 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,460 Others were blessed with children, and that too was New Life. 239 00:25:50,859 --> 00:25:55,920 A new responsibility, a new understanding of love, a new ministry given by the Lord. 240 00:25:56,460 --> 00:26:02,420 And for some, the most important moment was when they repented and accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior. 241 00:26:03,059 --> 00:26:08,339 Their hearts changed, their thinking changed, and they found meaning and eternal hope. 242 00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:11,960 That is true New Life, the one that begins with God. 243 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:17,619 Those who returned from war were changed inside, having experienced pain and loss. 244 00:26:18,299 --> 00:26:25,079 Yet here, in Christ, they found healing, peace, and New Life filled with meaning and hope. 245 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,200 So, New Life is not just a beautiful name. 246 00:26:29,579 --> 00:26:36,980 It's a testimony, a calling, a promise, and a reality in which we live and to which we invite others. 247 00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:57,400 Yeah, this is a short video about our church, New Life Church, in one of Frankivsk. 248 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,079 So, a few words about my family. 249 00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:07,740 So, you can see the picture. 250 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,759 So, this is my family. 251 00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:18,079 So, there is my wife, Natalia, and my four kids, two daughters and two sons. 252 00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:19,160 So, like, balance. 253 00:27:21,299 --> 00:27:25,579 Yeah, I have two daughters, older daughters, Polina and Zlata. 254 00:27:25,980 --> 00:27:29,019 Polina, she is 17 years old. 255 00:27:29,980 --> 00:27:32,420 Zlata, she is 15 years old. 256 00:27:32,940 --> 00:27:34,640 And also, I have two sons. 257 00:27:35,379 --> 00:27:38,480 My older son is Yorama, or Jeremiah. 258 00:27:39,339 --> 00:27:41,799 He is 12 years old. 259 00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:44,920 And also, the youngest son is Denis. 260 00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:49,019 He is 18 months old. 261 00:27:50,299 --> 00:27:55,259 So, Denis is probably the happiest one in our family. 262 00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:56,500 He is always smiling. 263 00:27:58,460 --> 00:28:04,019 So, the next slide shows you that this New Life Church. 264 00:28:04,019 --> 00:28:08,180 Yeah, we are a young and growing community of about 50 peoples. 265 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,779 Most of our people are young adults and families. 266 00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:18,640 So, we love God, we love people, and we want to help people to find new life in Jesus. 267 00:28:19,940 --> 00:28:23,039 So, our church in one of Frankivsk is western Ukraine. 268 00:28:23,319 --> 00:28:23,900 The next slide. 269 00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:29,720 Our city is far from the front line, but the words still affect our lives. 270 00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:36,039 Many people have moved to our city from other parts of Ukraine because of the war. 271 00:28:36,819 --> 00:28:43,579 So, we want our church to be a place where people can find God, community, support, and hope. 272 00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:46,039 So, our mission. 273 00:28:46,259 --> 00:28:47,480 Our mission is very simple. 274 00:28:48,660 --> 00:28:50,900 Leading people to new life in Jesus Christ. 275 00:28:51,220 --> 00:28:51,980 The next slide, please. 276 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,759 And we try to live this mission through three things. 277 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,599 Serving people, building relationships, 278 00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:00,539 and reaching generation. 279 00:29:01,500 --> 00:29:04,600 For us, church is not only what happens on Sunday morning. 280 00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:08,279 Church happens when we enter people's lives. 281 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:14,480 When we sit with someone who is struggling, when we invest a child, when we spend time with teenagers, 282 00:29:15,140 --> 00:29:23,480 when we help a family, when we build a relationship with people who may never come into church building on their own. 283 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,339 Because ultimately, our goal is not simple to bring people to church. 284 00:29:29,619 --> 00:29:32,420 Our goal is bring people to Jesus. 285 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,680 So, let me give you a little context about our church. 286 00:29:37,299 --> 00:29:37,700 Next slide. 287 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,099 New life church was planted in 2022. 288 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,079 So, today we have around 50 people. 289 00:29:45,019 --> 00:29:48,839 And so, there are not a huge number, but we have learned something. 290 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,359 God can do a lot through a small group of people who are willing to serve Him. 291 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,279 Especially during these difficult years in Ukraine, we have seen people came with different needs. 292 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:07,400 Some needs practical help, some needs community, some needs someone just listen to them. 293 00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:13,460 But behind many of these needs, there is even deeper need. 294 00:30:13,460 --> 00:30:15,019 People need hope. 295 00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:19,000 And we believe the real hope is found in Jesus Christ. 296 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,279 That is why serving people has become such an important part of our church. 297 00:30:25,779 --> 00:30:26,240 Next slide. 298 00:30:26,579 --> 00:30:28,759 We especially focus on several groups. 299 00:30:29,259 --> 00:30:34,500 We work with children and teenagers because we believe that investing in the next generation 300 00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:40,519 is one of the most important things that church can do. 301 00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:45,480 We work with young people creating place where they can build relationship, 302 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,519 ask honest questions, and hear about Jesus. 303 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,619 And we also serve people who are going through difficult circumstances. 304 00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:59,680 Sometimes ministry looks like preaching, but sometimes it looks like sitting at the table. 305 00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:04,799 Sometimes it looks like youth meeting, sometimes it looks like helping someone with food. 306 00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:07,160 Sometimes it's simply being present. 307 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,819 And all of these things give us opportunity to say, 308 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,079 we care about you because Jesus cares about you. 309 00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:19,839 We know that we cannot change people. 310 00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:25,839 We cannot change people's lives by ourselves, but we believe God can. 311 00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:34,859 Our job is simple, to be faithful, to love people, to serve them, and to point them to Jesus. 312 00:31:35,639 --> 00:31:42,400 So it's a short presentation about our church, our ministry. 313 00:31:43,339 --> 00:31:50,359 And also we have a time for questions and answers. 314 00:31:52,140 --> 00:31:56,960 So, yeah, let's just have a question time here. 315 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:03,180 And, you know, your city's not on the front lines, 316 00:32:04,259 --> 00:32:09,819 but Dimitro said that just a couple of days ago you had some drone strikes in your city. 317 00:32:09,980 --> 00:32:12,180 So it's a real threat. 318 00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:18,960 And so I'm sure many of you have questions about what's going on, 319 00:32:19,180 --> 00:32:24,759 and how's that affect your church, and how do you do outreach, and so on and so forth. 320 00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:27,500 So raise your hand. 321 00:32:27,859 --> 00:32:31,319 I'll come to you, and we're going to ask your questions. 322 00:32:36,019 --> 00:32:42,079 How has this affected the draftable age man and your congregation? 323 00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:47,500 In other words, do man as soon as they graduate get drafted into the armed forces, 324 00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:49,720 or is it not that serious? 325 00:32:51,919 --> 00:32:57,079 So, just for clarification, how war affect congregation? 326 00:32:58,299 --> 00:33:00,160 Yeah, called into the army. 327 00:33:01,259 --> 00:33:04,819 Are your young men called into the army right away? 328 00:33:05,460 --> 00:33:06,500 Does that affect your church? 329 00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:10,460 Yeah, so it's a good question, thank you. 330 00:33:11,980 --> 00:33:16,480 Now, we have a difficult situation with men in Ukraine, 331 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,619 because all men in Ukraine should go to the army, 332 00:33:22,019 --> 00:33:27,960 and it leads a lot of challenges for the church, 333 00:33:28,259 --> 00:33:32,619 because many leaders had to go to the army, 334 00:33:33,339 --> 00:33:40,740 and many churches live without leaders, the first one. 335 00:33:42,380 --> 00:33:46,799 But we have a privilege for pastors, for example, 336 00:33:47,259 --> 00:33:50,619 because pastors in Ukraine have a reservation, 337 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,400 so pastors in Ukraine have a possibility that they don't go to the army. 338 00:33:58,559 --> 00:33:59,579 So it's like a reservation. 339 00:33:59,579 --> 00:34:11,400 And also, like men, like family, that has three and more kids, not adults, 340 00:34:11,940 --> 00:34:16,239 also like reservists, not go to the army. 341 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:17,820 So, yeah. 342 00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:26,159 So if you talk about how the situation affects churches, 343 00:34:26,860 --> 00:34:30,019 yeah, it's a big challenge, because first of all, leaders, 344 00:34:30,820 --> 00:34:34,139 church does not have leaders, like has leaders, 345 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:41,119 but understand me, yeah, sometimes it's pretty difficult. 346 00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:42,820 Yeah, first one. 347 00:34:43,260 --> 00:34:43,820 Thank you. 348 00:34:43,820 --> 00:34:46,820 Yeah, thank you. 349 00:34:52,399 --> 00:34:55,880 I think Russia and the war thing, it's gotten really fast. 350 00:34:56,699 --> 00:34:57,880 Now it's like two or three years. 351 00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:02,679 Is there any end to this war, or what conditions have to be spelled out 352 00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:03,739 in order for this war to end? 353 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,780 So, yeah, I didn't get it. 354 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,079 Can you predict an end to the war? 355 00:35:11,079 --> 00:35:12,599 What are Ukrainians saying? 356 00:35:17,659 --> 00:35:21,079 I have no idea how to answer this. 357 00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:27,179 Could you please repeat again? 358 00:35:27,820 --> 00:35:29,019 I have a phrase to this question. 359 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,119 From my understanding, Russia and the war think it would be pretty easy. 360 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:44,320 And to their mistaken, it was not easy. 361 00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:47,380 In fact, it's a difficult war for both Ukraine and Russia. 362 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,940 Now, do you see any end to this war knowing what's going on? 363 00:35:52,659 --> 00:35:55,119 I mean, it seems like it doesn't serve anybody right now. 364 00:35:59,340 --> 00:36:02,780 It's a tough question. 365 00:36:02,780 --> 00:36:11,719 I cannot understand it because I don't have a whole view how it's going on. 366 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:15,579 Sorry. 367 00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:18,139 Nobody really knows, is what you're saying. 368 00:36:19,219 --> 00:36:19,699 Nobody knows. 369 00:36:22,539 --> 00:36:25,139 Yeah, maybe another question. 370 00:36:26,739 --> 00:36:27,219 Sorry. 371 00:36:29,879 --> 00:36:37,780 Do you have any trouble receiving or getting goods and services or food? 372 00:36:38,420 --> 00:36:41,219 Is there any scarcity in what you need? 373 00:36:42,019 --> 00:36:45,119 Yeah, it depends on the city. 374 00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:50,219 So, Ivana Frankivsk is located in western Ukraine. 375 00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:56,420 So, there are not any troubles with food and any troubles. 376 00:36:56,420 --> 00:37:05,519 But if you're talking about frontline cities like Zaporizhia and other, there are some troubles, but it's not critical. 377 00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:14,420 So, every time food provision goes to the city and provisions are there. 378 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,440 So, it's a problem, but it's not critical. 379 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:26,320 So, sometimes Ukrainian government drive, provide food for the city. 380 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,800 So, this one, it's not a problem. 381 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:39,440 So, last year, we had a problem with electricity because a lot of bombs were in Ukraine. 382 00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:45,940 Russia bombed a lot of cities in Ukraine, not only Kiev, but also western city as well. 383 00:37:46,940 --> 00:37:53,300 We had a problem with electricity, but Ukrainians managed it. 384 00:37:53,579 --> 00:37:58,820 We bought a big energy safe, a cumulator. 385 00:38:01,940 --> 00:38:06,960 We were able to leave without electricity. 386 00:38:08,819 --> 00:38:17,599 But now, everything, thank God that everything is so key at the time, not critical. 387 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:26,880 What other religions are there? Is there a lot of Catholic religions in the area? 388 00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:34,599 Yeah, it's mostly Orthodox. Orthodox Church is a major religion in Ukraine. 389 00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:46,719 Also, Orthodox has two branches, Orthodox and Orthodox with Greek Orthodox. 390 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:54,619 And if you're talking about western Ukraine, Greek Orthodox, major religion. 391 00:38:55,119 --> 00:39:01,440 If you're talking about the center of Ukraine and east of Ukraine, 392 00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:06,360 the major religion is Orthodox, just Orthodox. 393 00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:09,340 And how did you come to know the Lord? 394 00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:16,920 Through my brother. I have an older brother. 395 00:39:21,059 --> 00:39:26,719 When I was young, when I was a kid, I heard a lot about God, about Jesus. 396 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:33,900 I believe that Jesus and God exist, but I was not a believer. 397 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:44,400 My older brother came to Jesus first and told me about Jesus, but I answered, 398 00:39:45,139 --> 00:39:47,239 okay, it's your choice. 399 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:57,039 But then I went to Ukrainian army, so I was serving in Ukrainian army one year. 400 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:08,179 And then I went back home, so I had a lot of free time because I was looking for a job, 401 00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:15,099 just an adaptation after serving the army, also took a lot of time, like months. 402 00:40:15,099 --> 00:40:21,300 And I didn't want to waste time at home, I asked my brother, 403 00:40:21,619 --> 00:40:23,699 please take me to the church. 404 00:40:26,340 --> 00:40:30,300 And God touched my heart and I decided to follow Jesus. 405 00:40:33,019 --> 00:40:34,579 It's an interesting story. 406 00:40:36,340 --> 00:40:41,599 I noticed that 84 or 86% of the country is Catholic. 407 00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:47,880 Was there any opposition towards the Christian churches? 408 00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:56,679 84, not Catholic, I said Orthodox. 409 00:40:59,139 --> 00:41:03,320 What about Christian churches like Protestantism? 410 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:13,300 The percentage is very less, like 7% of Ukrainian churches are baptized, 411 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:19,320 or other kind of confession of Protestantism. 412 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:30,900 Is there persecution for your kind of church? Is there opposition? 413 00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:35,619 Yeah, I'm sorry. 414 00:41:37,260 --> 00:41:39,480 New Life Church is a Baptist church. 415 00:41:42,019 --> 00:41:49,099 We belong to Baptist unity and our church is like, 416 00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:54,699 yeah, Protestantism church, but this confession is like Baptist. 417 00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:57,159 Evangelistic Baptist church. 418 00:41:59,460 --> 00:42:01,380 A two-part question. 419 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,400 How do you, and walk me through this, 420 00:42:06,099 --> 00:42:11,880 how do you express healing to the people from war-torn country, 421 00:42:12,460 --> 00:42:17,239 like in Kiev and in Harkov? 422 00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:18,820 I have some friends there. 423 00:42:19,639 --> 00:42:22,360 And how do you minister to that and how do you see healing? 424 00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:24,179 The reason I ask that question is, 425 00:42:24,179 --> 00:42:28,980 sometimes I do not know how to pray for them because I've never been in that situation. 426 00:42:32,460 --> 00:42:38,340 As an example, what do you do when people come to you that are dire straits? 427 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,059 How do you minister to them? 428 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,619 What are the effects of the war that they walk through, 429 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,639 so I can understand better how to pray? 430 00:42:48,639 --> 00:42:48,940 Yeah. 431 00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:57,400 So it's Kiev and Harkiv that you mentioned. 432 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,719 This city, I really bomb it. 433 00:43:01,699 --> 00:43:06,679 A lot of risks there, a lot of buildings were destroyed. 434 00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:12,840 Yeah, and people, be honest, people lost hope 435 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,599 and a lot of questions to God. 436 00:43:17,980 --> 00:43:20,280 For example, why it's happened with Ukraine? 437 00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:30,320 Why do you do this with our kids? 438 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,579 Because a lot of kids also died, killed by Russians. 439 00:43:34,579 --> 00:43:53,719 And I would ask to pray for these people that God give open them hope, real hope. 440 00:43:54,980 --> 00:43:59,840 Yeah, because these situations that we have in Ukraine really demotivate a lot of people. 441 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:09,460 And a lot of people don't want to believe in God because they see this situation. 442 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,639 If you're talking about spiritual, 443 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:20,440 but if you're talking about physically, 444 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:27,139 a lot of people lost a job because of many businesses were closed 445 00:44:28,139 --> 00:44:31,219 because of the war, a lot of risks. 446 00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:37,519 And also many clients from foreign countries, 447 00:44:37,619 --> 00:44:41,000 for other countries like Europe, United States, 448 00:44:41,300 --> 00:44:44,300 also break contract because of the risks. 449 00:44:45,260 --> 00:44:48,519 And many people lost their jobs, 450 00:44:48,820 --> 00:44:54,920 and we have now this problem. 451 00:44:54,920 --> 00:45:00,079 It's a challenge for other people now. 452 00:45:00,820 --> 00:45:06,320 So you're saying that in light of those people that come from the West, 453 00:45:07,019 --> 00:45:14,000 there is total despair and the lack of even hope in their heart? 454 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:15,019 Yeah. 455 00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:16,199 Okay, all right. 456 00:45:16,639 --> 00:45:18,639 So then how do you deal with that? 457 00:45:20,260 --> 00:45:23,019 Yeah, it's also a challenge for us 458 00:45:23,019 --> 00:45:27,679 because we try to organize different events for them, 459 00:45:27,940 --> 00:45:30,440 for families, for kids, for young people, 460 00:45:30,699 --> 00:45:35,300 and we try to show them love of God. 461 00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:41,019 We try to show them what is this true hope. 462 00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:44,360 Yeah, what God can do for them. 463 00:45:44,980 --> 00:45:49,119 But not all people are open to this conversation, 464 00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:57,159 but many people are open for listening what God prepared for them. 465 00:45:57,940 --> 00:46:00,500 Yeah, so it's a challenge, 466 00:46:00,980 --> 00:46:06,519 and we can separate Ukrainians for two groups. 467 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,960 One of them is open to God, 468 00:46:11,099 --> 00:46:12,460 another one is not open, 469 00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:14,579 and we try to work with them, 470 00:46:14,579 --> 00:46:17,199 but it's very hard, but we try. 471 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:24,000 Are there halfway houses and provisions through your church 472 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,699 to help people get established in the local community, 473 00:46:26,980 --> 00:46:31,820 or do you traffic them through to the West, to Poland, and to other countries? 474 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:34,420 What do you mean? 475 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:41,460 Well, do any of the refugees take heart 476 00:46:41,460 --> 00:46:44,440 and begin to live as community with you, 477 00:46:44,659 --> 00:46:48,119 or do you primarily are a feeding stream to send them west? 478 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,739 Yeah, it also depends. 479 00:46:51,219 --> 00:46:53,420 If family has a possibility to live country, 480 00:46:53,619 --> 00:46:59,099 for example, I have a possibility to live country 481 00:46:59,099 --> 00:47:00,119 because I have three kids, 482 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,900 and I can live country without permissions. 483 00:47:04,179 --> 00:47:09,079 So many families choose this way, live country whole. 484 00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:11,760 But we also have another kind of families, 485 00:47:12,980 --> 00:47:19,639 like when my husband is serving in the Ukrainian army, 486 00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:24,079 and wife and children stay in Ukraine, 487 00:47:24,619 --> 00:47:26,800 because to be closer to each other. 488 00:47:27,739 --> 00:47:29,500 But we also, yeah, it depends. 489 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:36,639 Not all, but many people also choose to live country 490 00:47:36,639 --> 00:47:41,400 and live in Poland or other countries of Europe. 491 00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:48,260 Yeah, but also we have another challenge that family is under the pressure 492 00:47:48,260 --> 00:47:57,539 because we have another way when wife and children left Ukraine, 493 00:47:58,679 --> 00:48:03,119 but husband stayed in Ukraine. 494 00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:05,320 And it's like family separated. 495 00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:11,800 And it's also a big challenge because when you, without family, 496 00:48:11,940 --> 00:48:15,500 one year, two years, it's like a big challenge. 497 00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:18,760 And we also work with this type of families. 498 00:48:19,139 --> 00:48:26,519 We try to build their relationship, how they can manage it. 499 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,119 And also, yeah. 500 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:33,900 And last question, those that stay or are approximate to you, 501 00:48:34,179 --> 00:48:39,179 have you been able to provide jobs and income with them 502 00:48:39,179 --> 00:48:43,320 and place them in some type of credible work environment? 503 00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:48,119 Sorry, I didn't get it. 504 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,260 Okay, no, that's fine. 505 00:48:49,980 --> 00:48:51,960 In bringing the families in, obviously, 506 00:48:52,139 --> 00:48:54,239 it is a financial drain on your church. 507 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:58,579 And second of all, those people that have whole families, 508 00:48:58,739 --> 00:49:02,800 are there opportunities for these people to work their way through 509 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,240 and have jobs or is there nothing as an opportunity 510 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,000 from transferring from west to east? 511 00:49:10,639 --> 00:49:12,460 Do they begin to bring in, 512 00:49:12,659 --> 00:49:16,139 are they able to bring income in after they get established? 513 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,280 I'm not sure that I totally understand you, sorry, 514 00:49:24,659 --> 00:49:27,019 because my brain is not working. 515 00:49:28,039 --> 00:49:32,360 What do the men and the women do for money once they arrive? 516 00:49:32,860 --> 00:49:33,559 Can they work? 517 00:49:36,620 --> 00:49:40,619 Yeah, it's also a challenge for those families 518 00:49:40,619 --> 00:49:43,380 because when a family arrives to western, 519 00:49:43,380 --> 00:49:47,440 we try to find some work for them. 520 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,800 But it's not easy because in western, 521 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,179 we don't have much type of work. 522 00:49:55,039 --> 00:49:58,400 For example, when a husband was a teacher, 523 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,159 it's very hard to find the same job in western 524 00:50:02,159 --> 00:50:09,159 because this husband should go to constructions, 525 00:50:09,159 --> 00:50:13,039 and it's a challenge. 526 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,659 But we try to help them to find work 527 00:50:18,659 --> 00:50:23,599 and settle down in western. 528 00:50:27,279 --> 00:50:33,199 I was just wondering, 529 00:50:33,519 --> 00:50:37,579 what was the overall impact of the war 530 00:50:37,579 --> 00:50:39,360 on people spiritually? 531 00:50:40,260 --> 00:50:45,199 Did it actually cause them to see their need for God more 532 00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:47,440 or did it actually have a negative impact 533 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:48,360 and make them say, 534 00:50:48,500 --> 00:50:50,880 this is God's fault, I'm going to blame him for this? 535 00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:52,800 What was the impact of the war? 536 00:50:54,599 --> 00:50:57,360 Yeah, let me just say we have two parts of people, 537 00:50:57,619 --> 00:50:59,579 so one of them is open to hear, 538 00:51:01,199 --> 00:51:04,980 but other part of people don't want to hear about God 539 00:51:04,980 --> 00:51:13,320 because they blame that God always happens. 540 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,480 Also, I want to say young people, 541 00:51:18,340 --> 00:51:20,260 it's very hard to work with young people 542 00:51:20,260 --> 00:51:30,559 because young people are more close to God, 543 00:51:31,739 --> 00:51:33,239 if you're talking about young people. 544 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:41,320 For example, we have some small group with older people 545 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,699 that came from east of Ukraine, 546 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,719 and these people are very open to hear about Jesus. 547 00:51:51,460 --> 00:51:54,059 Also, they're really open 548 00:51:54,059 --> 00:52:00,039 because a small group happens one per week, 549 00:52:00,039 --> 00:52:05,039 and many older people came to church. 550 00:52:06,739 --> 00:52:10,039 We think that we have two reasons. 551 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,440 The first one, this community. 552 00:52:15,199 --> 00:52:20,880 When older people came to a new place, 553 00:52:22,619 --> 00:52:25,519 it's very difficult to find community. 554 00:52:26,519 --> 00:52:29,119 Church is open, 555 00:52:30,460 --> 00:52:32,300 and many people came to church, 556 00:52:32,659 --> 00:52:34,420 and we have great conversation. 557 00:52:35,079 --> 00:52:36,239 We read the Bible, 558 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:41,920 and those people are very open to hear about Jesus. 559 00:52:46,739 --> 00:52:50,699 They make some gift for each other. 560 00:52:52,220 --> 00:52:55,039 It's really good for them. 561 00:52:59,019 --> 00:53:02,300 I'm wondering, do you provide any housing for these people, 562 00:53:02,519 --> 00:53:06,219 and where would you go for safety? 563 00:53:07,340 --> 00:53:09,320 Do you have an underground church? 564 00:53:09,659 --> 00:53:11,400 Do you have underground housing? 565 00:53:12,059 --> 00:53:14,880 What kind of facilities do these people live in? 566 00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:16,900 I've been a realtor for 50 years. 567 00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:18,579 Yeah, yeah. 568 00:53:22,900 --> 00:53:27,079 If you're talking about schools, for example, 569 00:53:27,500 --> 00:53:29,599 each school has a shelter, 570 00:53:30,679 --> 00:53:32,500 a basement, 571 00:53:33,159 --> 00:53:35,900 and this basement is... 572 00:53:40,900 --> 00:53:42,880 Some shelter, let's say. 573 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,699 Some shelter under the basement of the school. 574 00:53:47,340 --> 00:53:48,400 If you're talking about church, 575 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:49,820 we don't have this possibility, 576 00:53:50,519 --> 00:53:54,239 because we ran a place, 577 00:53:56,180 --> 00:53:59,739 and we don't have this opportunity. 578 00:54:00,699 --> 00:54:01,500 But I want to say, 579 00:54:03,019 --> 00:54:04,500 in one of Frankivsk, 580 00:54:05,199 --> 00:54:07,780 we did not have a case 581 00:54:07,780 --> 00:54:12,900 when we had an air alarm during Sunday morning service. 582 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,739 Yeah, it's a big blessing for us. 583 00:54:17,780 --> 00:54:19,400 One other question. 584 00:54:20,900 --> 00:54:24,920 Do they understand that God gives man free will 585 00:54:25,780 --> 00:54:28,980 and that a lot of the destruction is caused 586 00:54:28,980 --> 00:54:31,639 because of man's will and not God's? 587 00:54:33,380 --> 00:54:33,980 A lot. 588 00:54:33,980 --> 00:54:38,980 What do you mean a lot of destruction by cause of man? 589 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,000 Could I please repeat or phrase your question, please? 590 00:54:43,699 --> 00:54:46,599 Do they blame God for the occurrence of war? 591 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:47,780 Instead of man. 592 00:54:48,579 --> 00:54:50,880 They should be blaming man 593 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,559 because God gives us the will to be good 594 00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:56,400 or the will to be bad. 595 00:54:57,539 --> 00:54:59,139 Do they understand? 596 00:54:59,840 --> 00:54:59,980 Yeah. 597 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,780 I know people that are mad at God, 598 00:55:01,780 --> 00:55:05,460 but then when I do an exercise or discussion with them, 599 00:55:05,659 --> 00:55:09,900 we find out it was lack of God that made the man do what he did. 600 00:55:11,300 --> 00:55:13,900 So then they're able to let God in their heart 601 00:55:13,900 --> 00:55:16,719 and understand that God is getting him through this. 602 00:55:18,679 --> 00:55:20,460 Do they understand that, do you think? 603 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,500 So we are talking about, 604 00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:31,440 should God support that man go to the army? 605 00:55:35,300 --> 00:55:36,659 Yeah, please. 606 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,480 Yeah, I think the question is, 607 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:42,900 the general public, 608 00:55:43,639 --> 00:55:45,739 are they blaming God for this 609 00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:51,000 or do they realize that it's humans that are causing the problems? 610 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,920 Do people want people? 611 00:55:53,519 --> 00:55:54,900 Are people angry at God? 612 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,440 It's a tough question because we have two opinions. 613 00:56:06,619 --> 00:56:08,179 We can separate people from two groups. 614 00:56:08,639 --> 00:56:12,420 So one of them is blaming that it's a problem 615 00:56:12,420 --> 00:56:17,679 because we have not good leaders, for example, 616 00:56:17,679 --> 00:56:21,579 and leaders made bad decisions 617 00:56:21,579 --> 00:56:24,940 and we have a result, we have a war. 618 00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:32,099 But other people blame that God is cause of this war. 619 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,079 Yeah, I cannot answer this question because it's like discussion 620 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:41,639 and we have many thoughts about it. 621 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:45,940 We cannot answer this question. 622 00:56:45,940 --> 00:56:50,719 We, as a church, we believe that the war because of this thing, 623 00:56:51,559 --> 00:56:57,840 because all humans, all peoples, 624 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,199 it's a sin and now we have this result. 625 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:09,000 But we also understand that it's a miracle 626 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,079 that Ukraine is still independent. 627 00:57:13,019 --> 00:57:16,880 We believe this, that God saved Ukraine. 628 00:57:18,139 --> 00:57:21,659 So it's my face. 629 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,739 I understand it and because if you want, 630 00:57:29,199 --> 00:57:33,480 because before the war, everyone in the world 631 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:38,059 saw that Ukrainian will not stand alone. 632 00:57:38,059 --> 00:57:43,139 Yeah, it just will stand three days, two weeks, for example. 633 00:57:43,679 --> 00:57:47,760 Yeah, but Ukraine is still independent. 634 00:57:48,219 --> 00:57:49,199 It's a miracle for me. 635 00:57:49,659 --> 00:57:54,940 And I believe that God will provide us 636 00:57:54,940 --> 00:57:58,340 this totally independent from Russians. 637 00:57:58,900 --> 00:58:01,679 And yeah, I believe this. 638 00:58:02,179 --> 00:58:05,980 But it's very difficult question, but we cannot answer this. 639 00:58:05,980 --> 00:58:08,219 We have different opinions. 640 00:58:09,980 --> 00:58:12,760 Thank you for sharing tonight. 641 00:58:12,940 --> 00:58:16,860 And I realize that this conflict is still ongoing for you. 642 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,380 So I appreciate you coming and sharing. 643 00:58:20,139 --> 00:58:24,280 I can't imagine that it's very difficult. 644 00:58:25,239 --> 00:58:28,079 My question to you would be is that from an outsider perspective, 645 00:58:28,300 --> 00:58:30,500 us in the United States or around the world, 646 00:58:31,219 --> 00:58:34,920 what is something that we wouldn't understand 647 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,800 or what's something that you would want the outside world to know, 648 00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:41,179 or something that we get wrong, 649 00:58:42,099 --> 00:58:46,380 that you know being there on the ground about the conflict? 650 00:58:49,820 --> 00:58:51,619 Yeah, thank you for this question. 651 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,480 If you're talking about church, 652 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:11,420 I would say that for the world, 653 00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:15,340 God still working in Ukraine 654 00:59:15,340 --> 00:59:24,039 and church still preaching 655 00:59:24,039 --> 00:59:31,179 and do this work that church is responsible for. 656 00:59:31,179 --> 00:59:33,519 Yes, it's preaching and rich people. 657 00:59:36,540 --> 00:59:39,539 And I also want to say 658 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:50,099 it's very hard for leaders of the church. 659 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,699 It's very hard for pastors of the church 660 00:59:52,699 --> 00:59:58,300 because it's very difficult to encourage people. 661 00:59:58,300 --> 01:00:02,420 It's very difficult to give them hope, real hope, 662 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,619 because a lot of people lost this hope. 663 01:00:08,340 --> 01:00:12,579 Yeah, and if you would like to pray for Ukraine, 664 01:00:12,860 --> 01:00:17,579 I would like to ask you to pray for leaders of the church, 665 01:00:17,820 --> 01:00:19,179 pastors, leaders of the church, 666 01:00:19,179 --> 01:00:28,239 and people that open their hearts for God. 667 01:00:29,079 --> 01:00:30,000 Yeah, sorry, maybe. 668 01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:32,119 And we're going to do that in just a few minutes, 669 01:00:32,300 --> 01:00:36,380 pray for a lot of these things that are on your heart. 670 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:46,180 You just kind of said what I was... 671 01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:51,409 I just wanted to let you know that every day at 5 o'clock, 672 01:00:52,010 --> 01:00:54,309 I have an alarm that goes off 673 01:00:54,309 --> 01:00:57,590 and I stop what I'm doing and I pray for you. 674 01:00:58,010 --> 01:00:58,530 Thank you. 675 01:00:58,670 --> 01:00:59,909 And I pray for the war. 676 01:01:01,390 --> 01:01:05,610 And I'm blown away that you came here and ministered to us. 677 01:01:06,389 --> 01:01:10,110 We should be ministering to you and lifting you up. 678 01:01:10,829 --> 01:01:12,530 And I guess my question to you is, 679 01:01:12,530 --> 01:01:17,309 how can we as a church body lift you up today? 680 01:01:22,530 --> 01:01:25,789 And he's going to have some prayer points 681 01:01:25,789 --> 01:01:27,949 of how he can pray for you. 682 01:01:28,349 --> 01:01:31,929 Yeah, I prepared a few prayer points with prayer needs 683 01:01:32,530 --> 01:01:36,969 and you can join to pray for Ukraine, 684 01:01:37,349 --> 01:01:38,489 for our needs, for pastors, 685 01:01:38,489 --> 01:01:44,490 I think a little bit later I will introduce those points 686 01:01:45,469 --> 01:01:47,389 and you will pray for us. 687 01:01:47,909 --> 01:01:50,929 But it's what I would ask. 688 01:01:51,889 --> 01:01:54,949 So please pray for Ukraine and churches in Ukraine. 689 01:01:55,730 --> 01:01:58,730 It's very important for us 690 01:01:58,730 --> 01:02:04,110 because when we understand that some churches pray for us 691 01:02:04,110 --> 01:02:07,969 in the other part of the earth, 692 01:02:08,630 --> 01:02:11,929 it's really encourage us and it's really motivate us 693 01:02:11,929 --> 01:02:13,050 that we are not alone. 694 01:02:14,090 --> 01:02:20,710 We have like believers that pray for us 695 01:02:20,710 --> 01:02:28,510 and we also believe that pray has a big power 696 01:02:30,110 --> 01:02:33,510 and like more than any sources, 697 01:02:34,309 --> 01:02:37,670 any resources in the earth, pray it's a big power 698 01:02:37,670 --> 01:02:41,670 and we ask you if you have a possibility, 699 01:02:41,949 --> 01:02:44,510 pray for Ukraine, for Ukrainian churches 700 01:02:45,030 --> 01:02:49,409 and the leaders in like pastors 701 01:02:49,409 --> 01:02:52,389 and the leaders of some ministers in Ukraine. 702 01:02:52,389 --> 01:02:52,789 Yeah. 703 01:02:55,789 --> 01:02:59,730 Jesus said to love your enemy also, 704 01:03:00,110 --> 01:03:04,650 do you take time to talk with your church 705 01:03:04,650 --> 01:03:07,409 and pray with your church for the Russians as well 706 01:03:07,409 --> 01:03:09,110 because they're your enemy 707 01:03:09,110 --> 01:03:13,989 and that's what Jesus loved us when we're enemies. 708 01:03:15,769 --> 01:03:17,989 So yeah, good question, good question. 709 01:03:18,990 --> 01:03:22,989 We sometimes pray for Russians 710 01:03:23,990 --> 01:03:28,570 that God open eyes, 711 01:03:29,349 --> 01:03:32,769 their eyes that they do 712 01:03:33,990 --> 01:03:40,909 because the Russians understand that they do bad things, 713 01:03:41,530 --> 01:03:44,489 that invention of Ukraine is a bad thing 714 01:03:44,489 --> 01:03:49,329 and we pray God open eyes 715 01:03:49,329 --> 01:03:53,610 for that they do bad things. 716 01:03:53,929 --> 01:03:54,969 It's our prayer now. 717 01:03:55,530 --> 01:03:56,769 If you're talking about forgiveness, 718 01:04:00,089 --> 01:04:03,570 it's really tough question 719 01:04:03,570 --> 01:04:07,449 and like if you're talking about forgiveness 720 01:04:07,449 --> 01:04:09,269 like for Russians, 721 01:04:10,989 --> 01:04:12,650 it's really tough questions 722 01:04:12,650 --> 01:04:16,929 and we decided to talk about it a little bit later, 723 01:04:17,750 --> 01:04:19,449 at least after the war 724 01:04:19,449 --> 01:04:21,889 because now it's like really tough, 725 01:04:22,010 --> 01:04:23,489 very tough question. 726 01:04:24,510 --> 01:04:27,769 So it's now we have the situation 727 01:04:27,769 --> 01:04:31,489 because many people lost children, 728 01:04:32,510 --> 01:04:35,570 lost husbands, lost wives, 729 01:04:36,690 --> 01:04:40,949 how we tell them love enemies. 730 01:04:41,849 --> 01:04:43,769 It's very tough. 731 01:04:44,929 --> 01:04:47,710 So and we decided don't talk about it 732 01:04:47,710 --> 01:04:51,590 until the war is ended. 733 01:04:53,889 --> 01:04:54,969 All right. 734 01:04:55,090 --> 01:04:56,050 Hey, well, thank you so much. 735 01:04:56,670 --> 01:04:57,130 Yeah. Thank you. 736 01:04:58,210 --> 01:04:59,349 Let's go to those prayer points. 737 01:04:59,769 --> 01:05:00,550 So, yeah. 738 01:05:07,730 --> 01:05:10,989 Thanks for joining us at Lansdale Life Church 739 01:05:10,989 --> 01:05:13,530 as we praise God and discuss His Word. 740 01:05:14,190 --> 01:05:17,269 Don't forget to join us for Worship Lives Sunday mornings 741 01:05:17,269 --> 01:05:19,670 at 10 a.m. Eastern on YouTube. 742 01:05:20,650 --> 01:05:22,750 Be blessed and have a great day! 743 01:05:30,550 --> 01:05:32,190 Thank you.