1 00:00:14,099 --> 00:00:17,339 Welcome to the Lansdale Life Church podcast. 2 00:00:18,379 --> 00:00:24,100 If you're seeking a closer relationship with Jesus Christ, this podcast is for you. 3 00:00:24,740 --> 00:00:27,079 Thank you for joining us today. 4 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,500 And we're coming to the end of this book. 5 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,000 And some of you are saying, well, it's about time. 6 00:00:42,179 --> 00:00:43,140 I mean, let's move on. 7 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:49,579 But you know, I know we learned so many great things in this book about Jesus and about the 8 00:00:49,579 --> 00:00:50,560 history of Israel. 9 00:00:52,839 --> 00:00:54,899 And we're going to learn more today. 10 00:00:55,060 --> 00:00:58,799 Today's message is leaders who lead to Jesus. 11 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,780 So that's really what this is pointing to. 12 00:01:02,420 --> 00:01:03,219 And so let's pray. 13 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:09,560 Father God, Lord, we know that you're going to do something impactful here today, Lord. 14 00:01:10,099 --> 00:01:15,239 And we ask you to reveal to us what we're supposed to take away from this message, from 15 00:01:15,239 --> 00:01:16,159 your word. 16 00:01:16,780 --> 00:01:18,700 And we ask this in Jesus' name. 17 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:19,799 Amen. 18 00:01:21,659 --> 00:01:28,319 So let's dive right into chapter 13, verse seven, and we're going to go to verse 17. 19 00:01:30,780 --> 00:01:39,019 So remember those who rule over you, who have spoken the word of God to you, whose faith 20 00:01:39,019 --> 00:01:42,420 follow considering the outcome of their conduct. 21 00:01:42,420 --> 00:01:45,260 And by the way, that word rule means lead. 22 00:01:45,700 --> 00:01:52,900 So remember those who lead you, who have spoken the word to you, whose faith follow 23 00:01:52,900 --> 00:01:55,040 considering the outcome of their conduct. 24 00:01:56,319 --> 00:02:01,739 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. 25 00:02:02,260 --> 00:02:06,000 Is that the most amazing verse in the Bible? 26 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:09,699 Well, those songs we were singing, I don't know. 27 00:02:09,780 --> 00:02:14,560 Sometimes I don't know if the worship leaders read ahead, you know, they're worship 28 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,219 leaders, so maybe, maybe not. 29 00:02:16,620 --> 00:02:20,139 But one thing is those songs all connected to that one verse there. 30 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:21,659 Who else is worthy? 31 00:02:21,780 --> 00:02:21,960 Amen. 32 00:02:23,139 --> 00:02:28,680 So, and so reading on from there, verse nine, do not be carried away about with 33 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:34,259 various strange doctrines, for it is good that the heart be established by 34 00:02:34,259 --> 00:02:40,860 grace, pardon me, not with foods which have not profited those who have been 35 00:02:40,860 --> 00:02:42,520 occupied with them. 36 00:02:43,479 --> 00:02:48,840 We have an altar from which those who serve the tabernacle have no right to 37 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:55,500 eat, for the bodies of those animals whose blood is brought into the sanctuary 38 00:02:55,500 --> 00:02:59,379 by the high priest for sin are burned outside the camp. 39 00:03:00,099 --> 00:03:05,199 Therefore, Jesus also that he might sanctify the people with his own blood 40 00:03:05,199 --> 00:03:06,919 suffered outside the gate. 41 00:03:07,580 --> 00:03:13,300 Therefore, let us go forth to him outside the camp, bearing his reproach. 42 00:03:14,099 --> 00:03:19,520 For here we have no continuing city, but we seek the one to come. 43 00:03:20,419 --> 00:03:25,400 Verse 15, therefore by him let us continually offer the sacrifice of 44 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:31,800 praise to God, that is the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to his name. 45 00:03:32,900 --> 00:03:38,699 But do not forget to do good and to share, for with such sacrifices, God is well 46 00:03:38,699 --> 00:03:39,199 pleased. 47 00:03:39,819 --> 00:03:41,860 And here's, we're going to finish up verse 17. 48 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,360 Obey those who, my version says, rule over you. 49 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:51,620 Again, if you have ESV or other ones, it says, who lead you and be submissive, 50 00:03:51,620 --> 00:03:58,780 for they watch out for your souls as those who must give account, but them do 51 00:03:58,780 --> 00:04:04,900 so with joy, I'm sorry, let them do so with joy, not with grief, for that would 52 00:04:04,900 --> 00:04:07,400 be unprofitable for you. 53 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:08,300 Amen. 54 00:04:10,060 --> 00:04:17,100 So that first verse that says, remember those who lead you, who have spoken 55 00:04:17,100 --> 00:04:23,019 the word to you, whose faith follow considering the outcome of their conduct. 56 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:29,120 Verse seven, you know, Danny last week ended with verse seven. 57 00:04:29,220 --> 00:04:34,040 If you can recall, he talked about the missionaries, Jim and Elizabeth 58 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:41,460 Elliott, and how they were, how Jim Elliott was, was, was murdered on the 59 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,480 beaches of Ecuador as he brought the gospel. 60 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,019 And yet his wife came years later. 61 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,660 I forget how many years and actually brought the gospel and they received 62 00:04:51,660 --> 00:04:54,720 Christ through that, through the death of Jim Elliott. 63 00:04:55,500 --> 00:04:58,800 And for, for Danny, that really spoke to him. 64 00:04:58,959 --> 00:05:06,259 You know, we have a lot of rulers or leaders in the Christian realm from 65 00:05:06,259 --> 00:05:10,639 history until now that have been a guide to us. 66 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:15,139 The word ruler or leader is, uh, hegaiomai, it's the Greek word. 67 00:05:15,740 --> 00:05:18,860 And it means just as it, as we were saying, it means a leader. 68 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,399 And you know, in, in society, we could find a lot of Christian 69 00:05:23,399 --> 00:05:27,279 leaders who make an impact on our faith. 70 00:05:27,740 --> 00:05:31,519 You know, Billy Graham, I know I'm going way back and any of you young 71 00:05:31,519 --> 00:05:35,860 people may have never, uh, watched a full sermon of his, but I'm sure 72 00:05:35,860 --> 00:05:40,100 you know who he is, but he has made such an impact on so many people. 73 00:05:40,100 --> 00:05:42,680 My mother-in-law Jackie got saved through him. 74 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,639 Then Ron got saved through her and yada, yada, yada. 75 00:05:47,060 --> 00:05:48,480 And here we all here are here. 76 00:05:48,899 --> 00:05:54,660 Jill and I saved, you know, Billy Graham made a huge impact of recent. 77 00:05:55,079 --> 00:06:02,500 Charlie Kirk has made a tremendous impact on people's lives because he 78 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:05,399 demonstrated what Christ looked like. 79 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,699 Now you might not love the way his style and so forth, but he 80 00:06:10,259 --> 00:06:12,540 illustrated faith, you know, we're all different. 81 00:06:12,620 --> 00:06:14,819 We all have different personalities and so forth. 82 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:19,779 No one is all going to look exactly the same the way they present Christ, but 83 00:06:19,779 --> 00:06:26,060 still he, he demonstrated bold faith, relentless faith, and was murdered for. 84 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:27,180 It was martyred, right? 85 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,420 And there's so many, I, I listen to podcasts. 86 00:06:30,899 --> 00:06:35,199 I watch, uh, preachers, I don't watch them much anymore, but I listen 87 00:06:35,199 --> 00:06:37,319 to a lot of preachers, listen to a lot of podcasts. 88 00:06:37,319 --> 00:06:39,720 So I'm blessed in so many ways. 89 00:06:40,220 --> 00:06:45,839 And so there's that big picture of hegema, hegema, you know, leaders 90 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:50,720 of faith in this world, but for our purposes today, I'm going to narrow it 91 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:56,139 down to people who are closer to our, our own life, you know, people that 92 00:06:56,139 --> 00:07:02,040 we are more, we know more intimately, people that we are familiar with, you 93 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,839 know, um, I had so many amazing mentors in my life. 94 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:11,339 When I came to Christ, all my previous pastors, the first church, I got saved. 95 00:07:11,519 --> 00:07:15,480 Yo, pastor Don, you know, hearing him and just really being 96 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,600 ministered by him, Warren, Saul, Scott Mitchell. 97 00:07:20,100 --> 00:07:22,660 Then my next church was John Hessler. 98 00:07:22,819 --> 00:07:26,740 These people are burned into my memory and my heart because 99 00:07:26,740 --> 00:07:28,579 they were hegema to me. 100 00:07:28,740 --> 00:07:30,519 They led me to Christ. 101 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,779 They led me in Christ. 102 00:07:33,300 --> 00:07:38,459 And I saw in their lives a demonstration of evidence of their faith. 103 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,560 They all went through trials. 104 00:07:41,100 --> 00:07:42,240 None of them were perfect. 105 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,720 And yet they stood ground and they walked the walk of faith demonstrating. 106 00:07:47,879 --> 00:07:49,699 That's what it looks like. 107 00:07:50,339 --> 00:07:55,199 It's so awesome when you can actually see Jesus in the flesh and say, 108 00:07:55,199 --> 00:07:57,079 that's what it looks like. 109 00:07:57,300 --> 00:07:59,000 It looks like Doug Miller. 110 00:07:59,459 --> 00:08:01,180 It looks like Kathy Swincala. 111 00:08:01,180 --> 00:08:02,720 It looks like Tony. 112 00:08:03,139 --> 00:08:08,160 It looks like us when we walk in faith, we are in this sense being 113 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,959 hegema to someone else that we may not even realize, but we're leading 114 00:08:12,959 --> 00:08:18,939 people to Jesus Christ by the evidence of our faith. 115 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,879 And so that's what the whole point of this is. 116 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:28,879 He's saying, you know, remember them, honor them, and actually watch their 117 00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:31,959 conduct and see if their faith is proven. 118 00:08:32,659 --> 00:08:35,740 And so it's so important for us to do that, you know? 119 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,200 And so let's go on to verse eight. 120 00:08:42,419 --> 00:08:46,000 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever. 121 00:08:46,899 --> 00:08:52,379 And as we said, that's just such an awesome statement that Jesus is the same. 122 00:08:52,700 --> 00:08:53,960 And you know why that's so important? 123 00:08:54,419 --> 00:08:57,220 Because Jesus was before all things. 124 00:08:57,220 --> 00:08:58,820 You know, everything's about Jesus. 125 00:08:59,039 --> 00:09:06,220 We're singing about him because he, all things were made for him, by him, 126 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,639 and he holds all things together. 127 00:09:10,019 --> 00:09:14,399 By the power of his word, he literally holds things together. 128 00:09:14,860 --> 00:09:18,740 Whether he's the strong force that holds every atom together, we're going to 129 00:09:18,740 --> 00:09:23,120 learn in heaven someday how he does this, but everything we see is the result 130 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,679 of what he has created, you know? 131 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,980 So that's how significant crisis he is, the word of God. 132 00:09:31,799 --> 00:09:35,259 And he doesn't need to change to political correctness. 133 00:09:35,820 --> 00:09:38,879 He doesn't need to adjust to the signs of the times. 134 00:09:39,299 --> 00:09:40,659 He doesn't need to change. 135 00:09:41,740 --> 00:09:46,379 We need to adjust to him because he is the standard. 136 00:09:47,139 --> 00:09:52,080 You know, he still hates the sin of dishonoring parents. 137 00:09:52,639 --> 00:10:00,120 He still hates the sin of murder, of adultery, of coveting, of lying. 138 00:10:00,659 --> 00:10:02,179 None of that has changed. 139 00:10:02,519 --> 00:10:07,279 He still hates all the sin of that because of what it does to humanity. 140 00:10:07,860 --> 00:10:10,440 He still hates sexual immorality. 141 00:10:10,659 --> 00:10:12,419 He still hates homosexuality. 142 00:10:12,820 --> 00:10:15,019 He still hates transgenderism. 143 00:10:15,059 --> 00:10:16,720 He still hates all that stuff. 144 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,720 Some of you are like, ooh, but he died for all of it. 145 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:29,580 So all of that sin, whatever it is, you know, the greed, all of it died 146 00:10:29,580 --> 00:10:33,580 with Christ on the cross, okay? 147 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,639 The sin is still ugly, but he died for it. 148 00:10:37,919 --> 00:10:43,019 And that's so important because rewinding one verse, when we're following 149 00:10:43,019 --> 00:10:50,139 leaders who suddenly say sin is not sin, things change. 150 00:10:50,419 --> 00:10:51,179 They had it wrong. 151 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:52,320 They misread it. 152 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:53,799 They mistranslated it. 153 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,620 It's still all sin, right? 154 00:10:57,220 --> 00:11:00,559 And so, but he paid for it on the cross. 155 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:09,700 In fact, when we read Isaiah 5.20, Isaiah says, woe to those who call evil 156 00:11:09,700 --> 00:11:14,840 good and good evil, who put darkness for light and the light for 157 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,320 darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. 158 00:11:20,059 --> 00:11:23,500 So that, you know, obviously that's what's happening in this world today. 159 00:11:23,759 --> 00:11:26,759 You know, suddenly we're like being gaslit all the time. 160 00:11:26,860 --> 00:11:27,879 Like I thought that was bad. 161 00:11:28,639 --> 00:11:29,220 Isn't that bad? 162 00:11:29,419 --> 00:11:30,299 No, no, it's not bad. 163 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:30,720 It's good. 164 00:11:30,899 --> 00:11:32,580 You're bad for thinking it's bad. 165 00:11:32,740 --> 00:11:35,019 You know, it's like, wait, I'm getting confused, right? 166 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,980 Because, you know, the world is gaslighting us, right? 167 00:11:38,980 --> 00:11:43,100 And, but we have the truth because Jesus doesn't change. 168 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,720 He doesn't say, you know what, actually now, yeah, I'm okay with that. 169 00:11:47,279 --> 00:11:52,340 You know, no, he's not, but he died for it, you know, so we can reconcile all 170 00:11:52,340 --> 00:11:57,799 things to Jesus Christ, but we can't start calling what's bad good and good 171 00:11:57,799 --> 00:12:01,159 bad because he doesn't change, right? 172 00:12:01,620 --> 00:12:07,860 And neither does his, his attitude towards sin. 173 00:12:08,419 --> 00:12:10,039 That's why he died for it. 174 00:12:10,039 --> 00:12:13,980 So we need to remember that Christ doesn't change with the times. 175 00:12:14,500 --> 00:12:14,559 Okay. 176 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:22,799 And so, so we see this idea of, of that leader must be pointing to Jesus 177 00:12:22,799 --> 00:12:24,360 cause he's always the same. 178 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:30,299 You know, I've been watching a lot of documentaries lately on different kind 179 00:12:30,299 --> 00:12:34,700 of weird cultish things in Christianity or anything, why are you watching that 180 00:12:34,700 --> 00:12:37,100 stuff, but I don't know, it's on there. 181 00:12:37,100 --> 00:12:38,019 And it's interesting. 182 00:12:38,179 --> 00:12:38,740 It is interesting. 183 00:12:39,139 --> 00:12:44,379 It's interesting to me how people can get manipulated by leaders to go 184 00:12:44,379 --> 00:12:46,320 a stray from the gospel. 185 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,559 That just like it irritates you. 186 00:12:48,620 --> 00:12:49,200 I'm watching it. 187 00:12:49,259 --> 00:12:52,799 I get angry, you know, but I'm thinking like, how does this happen? 188 00:12:53,539 --> 00:12:58,240 How do people suddenly stop reading their Bible and start following a person or 189 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,940 never read the Bible is because they don't know Jesus Christ. 190 00:13:02,660 --> 00:13:07,139 They don't know a fake when they see one because they don't know Jesus. 191 00:13:07,700 --> 00:13:10,080 Like we need people to be pointing us to Jesus. 192 00:13:10,500 --> 00:13:12,799 And when they start going astray, you're saying, bye-bye. 193 00:13:13,419 --> 00:13:14,500 I'm following Jesus. 194 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,279 And we've all probably had people in our lives, leaders. 195 00:13:18,620 --> 00:13:18,919 Thank God. 196 00:13:19,059 --> 00:13:22,519 I haven't had many I can think of that have gone astray. 197 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:24,860 And you're like, yeah, that's not the way I'm going. 198 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:25,419 Okay. 199 00:13:25,580 --> 00:13:25,879 Bye-bye. 200 00:13:26,299 --> 00:13:28,559 You know, I'm following Jesus, right? 201 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,960 Because if you don't know him, you won't know when you're being led astray. 202 00:13:33,580 --> 00:13:35,039 We need to know Jesus. 203 00:13:35,539 --> 00:13:39,279 He's the same yesterday, today, and always, and he doesn't change. 204 00:13:40,639 --> 00:13:44,879 And you see these different, you know, things we're watching this teen 205 00:13:44,879 --> 00:13:47,559 mania back in the nineties. 206 00:13:47,759 --> 00:13:49,559 I don't know where I was during that time. 207 00:13:49,620 --> 00:13:53,320 I don't remember any of that, but all these kids in colleges were 208 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:54,840 getting militant for Christ. 209 00:13:55,039 --> 00:13:56,500 And it sounds good, right? 210 00:13:56,500 --> 00:14:01,899 It sounds like these kids are being indoctrinated to be on the army for God. 211 00:14:02,259 --> 00:14:02,279 Right. 212 00:14:02,820 --> 00:14:06,580 And they see the whole world as their enemy, you know, and well, that's not so 213 00:14:06,580 --> 00:14:09,960 good and they're starting to be kind of isolationists, right? 214 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:15,480 And, but what happened is they formed like these boot camps and they were 215 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:21,620 literally like just putting these kids through like a boot camp style 216 00:14:21,620 --> 00:14:24,600 humiliation and for what purpose? 217 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,860 Well, to like, they're getting paid to do this. 218 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,720 Like people were parents were paying for their children to be abused by these 219 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,059 people who are supposed to be spiritual leaders. 220 00:14:34,399 --> 00:14:37,259 And you're watching is like, how does this stuff happen? 221 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,179 And so many others, I won't even go into details, but you're watching. 222 00:14:41,299 --> 00:14:42,860 You're like, what is that all about? 223 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,679 How does that happen? 224 00:14:45,340 --> 00:14:46,539 And there's so many ways. 225 00:14:46,919 --> 00:14:51,480 First of all, money gets in fact, you know, Paul told Timothy in 226 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:58,080 first, uh, Timothy six 10, he said for the love of money is the root of all kinds 227 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:03,460 of evil for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness and 228 00:15:03,460 --> 00:15:09,720 pierced themselves through with many sorrows, many leaders that once they 229 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,059 probably started off with good intentions, whatever it might be, 230 00:15:14,279 --> 00:15:18,919 whatever kind of ministry or specialty they were in, but then when they 231 00:15:18,919 --> 00:15:22,980 started selling books, when they started selling tapes or whatever they sell. 232 00:15:23,279 --> 00:15:26,299 And when all of a sudden they're filling conference halls with their 233 00:15:26,299 --> 00:15:29,820 style, with their format, you know, all of a sudden, like, we have to make 234 00:15:29,820 --> 00:15:31,179 sure there's some healings today. 235 00:15:31,620 --> 00:15:34,139 If there's no healings, we got a problem. 236 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,659 We can't sell out the next conference hall we're going to. 237 00:15:36,799 --> 00:15:41,059 I'm just being a little, you know, whatever that is facetious. 238 00:15:41,159 --> 00:15:41,799 Thank you, Cindy. 239 00:15:42,259 --> 00:15:42,419 Right. 240 00:15:42,899 --> 00:15:46,320 But like, we see this again and again and again, we're like, you know, 241 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,860 prophets will, you know, look up Facebooks ahead of time and kind of learn 242 00:15:50,860 --> 00:15:54,720 about the person there's somebody in here who's blah, blah, blah, you know, 243 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,320 like a psychic, you know, I mean, that kind of stuff. 244 00:15:57,500 --> 00:16:02,840 We need to be aware, aware that, you know, you need, we need to know 245 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,559 Jesus Christ, then we can spot the fraud. 246 00:16:05,700 --> 00:16:09,460 You know, they say you study the authentic, not the counterfeit, right? 247 00:16:09,820 --> 00:16:14,600 Because if you know, the authentic bill, you can't be conned by a counterfeit bill, 248 00:16:14,620 --> 00:16:15,019 right? 249 00:16:15,019 --> 00:16:16,940 You don't study the counterfeit. 250 00:16:17,500 --> 00:16:21,279 So I'm just saying we need to be careful to really be following those 251 00:16:21,279 --> 00:16:25,759 who lead to Jesus Christ because he doesn't change. 252 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:26,120 Amen. 253 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:28,120 Amen. 254 00:16:28,559 --> 00:16:29,139 Thank you, Frank. 255 00:16:29,919 --> 00:16:33,240 And, um, and then also other people who have gone astray, we're not 256 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,960 going to see names and all this, but other people going astray in their 257 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:42,460 pride and arrogance that had huge ministries and suddenly it all went 258 00:16:42,460 --> 00:16:47,120 to their head and they became filled up with themselves as they lead, you 259 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,379 know, thousands of people and suddenly no one can get along with them and 260 00:16:51,379 --> 00:16:53,299 they can't stand them and hear this. 261 00:16:53,580 --> 00:16:58,059 These people founded the ministry, you know, and Paul has a word or two 262 00:16:58,059 --> 00:17:01,279 to say about that in second Corinthians 10. 263 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,799 It talks quite a bit about this. 264 00:17:06,100 --> 00:17:10,119 He says, for we dare not class ourselves. 265 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:15,259 He's being a little sarcastic here or compare ourselves with those who 266 00:17:15,259 --> 00:17:20,240 commend themselves, but they measuring themselves by themselves and 267 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,980 comparing themselves among themselves are not why. 268 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,420 So he's saying these people think they're all, they're really special 269 00:17:28,420 --> 00:17:32,960 and important and they're super apostles, right? 270 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:34,460 They think they're great. 271 00:17:34,700 --> 00:17:36,480 And Paul's just saying, I don't think I'm anything. 272 00:17:36,940 --> 00:17:38,339 I'm just here serving Jesus. 273 00:17:38,339 --> 00:17:40,819 I'm just here to point to Jesus. 274 00:17:41,759 --> 00:17:46,200 And then he goes on in the next chapter, he says, for such are false 275 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:51,339 prophets, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 276 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:57,319 And no wonder for Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 277 00:17:57,500 --> 00:18:04,200 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves 278 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:10,420 into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works. 279 00:18:11,579 --> 00:18:16,720 So again, this is just kind of like a little warning that if we don't know Jesus, 280 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:24,059 we don't know his word, we can be conned by a false leader or someone who has gone 281 00:18:24,059 --> 00:18:30,039 astray, you know, suddenly accommodating their own agenda rather than 282 00:18:30,039 --> 00:18:31,299 the agenda of Christ. 283 00:18:31,799 --> 00:18:31,980 Amen. 284 00:18:31,980 --> 00:18:32,180 Amen. 285 00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:39,819 So the next couple of verses are dealing with the law, which we've talked a lot 286 00:18:39,819 --> 00:18:45,660 about throughout Hebrews, so we're not going to look at those couple of 287 00:18:45,660 --> 00:18:52,039 verses from nine to 14, but verse 15 and 16. 288 00:18:55,000 --> 00:19:00,319 Therefore by him, let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God. 289 00:19:00,839 --> 00:19:07,700 That is the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to his name, but do not forget to 290 00:19:07,700 --> 00:19:13,240 do good and to share for with such sacrifices, God is well pleased. 291 00:19:14,079 --> 00:19:19,099 You know, in the old Testament, they offered up animals, they killed animals 292 00:19:19,099 --> 00:19:24,940 and shed their blood to anoint the altar and to offer up to God. 293 00:19:24,940 --> 00:19:31,700 But now Christ was our offering and now we are living sacrifices for him and we 294 00:19:31,700 --> 00:19:37,380 can offer up praise and good works and sharing with other believers and non 295 00:19:37,380 --> 00:19:37,779 believers. 296 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,680 And I think this church does an amazing job with that sharing attitude. 297 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:43,559 We really do. 298 00:19:43,759 --> 00:19:48,980 We have blessed many people and blessed many ministries by this small little 299 00:19:48,980 --> 00:19:53,339 church, but then let's finish on this last verse 17. 300 00:19:54,940 --> 00:20:00,220 Because it goes back to the idea of leaders, Haggaiomai, verse 17. 301 00:20:00,519 --> 00:20:06,960 Obey those who rule over you and be submissive, for they watch out for your 302 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,599 souls as those who must give account. 303 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:20,380 Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you. 304 00:20:21,620 --> 00:20:27,619 You know, when I read that, I think of Moses because I think Moses was probably 305 00:20:27,619 --> 00:20:33,220 the one of the least esteemed leaders in the Bible when you really think through 306 00:20:33,220 --> 00:20:37,240 everything he went through to lead God's people. 307 00:20:37,380 --> 00:20:41,000 And I'm not going to go through every step of it, but right from, you know, 308 00:20:41,140 --> 00:20:46,299 the beginning as they're leaving Egypt at the, at the shores of the Red Sea. 309 00:20:46,819 --> 00:20:48,180 Why did you bring us out here? 310 00:20:48,180 --> 00:20:53,339 You know, complain and complain, but no one died as a result of their rebellion 311 00:20:53,339 --> 00:20:56,680 until Mount Sinai when the law was given. 312 00:20:57,279 --> 00:21:02,440 And finally, because of their rebellion, making the golden calves, 3,000 of them 313 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:08,779 died, and then from there, continual rebellion against, against Moses, 314 00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:12,039 including his own brother and sister rebelling against him, right? 315 00:21:12,559 --> 00:21:16,799 And he was a humble leader, just trying to point to Yahweh, just trying 316 00:21:16,799 --> 00:21:22,700 to point to God and they're constantly rebelling and it was never profitable for them. 317 00:21:23,500 --> 00:21:28,759 Did you notice it was never profitable for them because each stage of the way they 318 00:21:28,759 --> 00:21:35,039 lost, they either lost people, they lost resources, they just lost and they lost 319 00:21:35,039 --> 00:21:40,660 time, so much time wandering in that wilderness, a journey that could have 320 00:21:40,660 --> 00:21:46,200 taken a very brief amount of time, different speculations on that because 321 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,619 they had to stop at Mount Sinai. 322 00:21:48,319 --> 00:21:51,740 But regardless, it never would have taken 40 years to actually 323 00:21:51,740 --> 00:21:53,440 finally make it their home. 324 00:21:54,680 --> 00:22:00,319 Could have been a month, two months, but no, it took 40 years because of rebellion. 325 00:22:01,700 --> 00:22:05,220 And that's, you know, so the Lord is saying, you know, don't make it 326 00:22:05,220 --> 00:22:10,059 difficult for leaders, you know, work with them. 327 00:22:10,980 --> 00:22:15,079 You know, when I was thinking about this, I remember one time a good friend 328 00:22:15,079 --> 00:22:17,140 of mine, he was a home fellowship leader. 329 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,640 We call them life groups now. 330 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:26,579 And he had been a believer for years, you know, long before me, he grew up in the 331 00:22:26,579 --> 00:22:31,559 church and they were asking for volunteers, you know, to have home 332 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:33,059 fellowships, just like we are here. 333 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,079 If you've been here six months and you have an interest in being part of or 334 00:22:37,079 --> 00:22:42,819 hosting or possibly being part of a leadership team of a life group, come 335 00:22:42,819 --> 00:22:43,559 and see me. 336 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,440 And so he was a home fellowship leader. 337 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,339 We used to call him growth groups, actually. 338 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:55,720 And so he was leading and he knew the word, but he wasn't like deep into it, 339 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,240 you know, and there was a guy there who was deep into it. 340 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:00,920 Okay. 341 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,940 I mean, he knew everything about everything, you know, and he wanted to make sure 342 00:23:04,940 --> 00:23:07,359 everybody knew he knew everything about everything. 343 00:23:07,460 --> 00:23:07,960 Okay. 344 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:15,880 And so my friend, Greg, he's leading and, and he's just, he was such a, uh, you 345 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,859 know, a humble, just wanted to, you know, just wanted to do a good job, you 346 00:23:19,859 --> 00:23:23,839 know, and so he'd go through it and every step of the way, this guy was 347 00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:27,220 constantly saying, well, you know, that's not actually accurate. 348 00:23:27,940 --> 00:23:33,440 Now imagine that you're a leader in a home, in a growth group or a life 349 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,319 group, and you have a heckler in there. 350 00:23:36,839 --> 00:23:37,380 What's that? 351 00:23:38,839 --> 00:23:39,019 Right. 352 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,460 And you're being challenged every step of the way on whatever you're saying, you 353 00:23:43,460 --> 00:23:48,740 know, well, actually, or I had one time when I was a, uh, I was a growth 354 00:23:48,740 --> 00:23:50,359 group, growth group, yeah. 355 00:23:50,779 --> 00:23:54,380 Leader and I'm leading and somebody had out their commentary. 356 00:23:55,220 --> 00:23:55,740 Okay. 357 00:23:56,079 --> 00:23:58,660 And every verse we went to, she's reading through it. 358 00:23:58,980 --> 00:24:03,919 Well, actually, um, so-and-so says, and I'm like, all right, well, why don't 359 00:24:04,079 --> 00:24:07,259 you just kind of let the spirit sort of guide the discussion, but that's 360 00:24:07,259 --> 00:24:12,359 an interesting view, but you know, but challenges, you know, and, and there's 361 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,640 nothing wrong with challenging, but there's proper ways to challenge. 362 00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:18,319 You know, there really is. 363 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,200 And, and it's, it's an, and it's in an honoring way because it's great that 364 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,400 this other guy knew the word better than my friend, Greg, God bless him. 365 00:24:27,420 --> 00:24:27,819 Okay. 366 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:33,180 But the attitude of making sure everyone else knew he knew more than Greg. 367 00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:41,779 And, you know, time, Jesus one time said, wisdom is proven by her children. 368 00:24:42,039 --> 00:24:48,240 You ever hear that verse time, time proves truth, you know, and it's 369 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,539 interesting because that, that guy who was challenging Greg ended up divorced 370 00:24:53,539 --> 00:24:55,200 and now he's home with the Lord. 371 00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:56,380 I hope he's home with the Lord. 372 00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:57,400 I believe so. 373 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:04,740 But, and Greg is happy, married kids, you know, doing tremendous, you know, 374 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,680 and I'm not comparing that that happened because he did that, but it's an 375 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,839 attitude, you know, it's kind of a rebellious attitude. 376 00:25:11,980 --> 00:25:14,279 Like, I don't like leadership. 377 00:25:15,220 --> 00:25:20,240 You know, I have this resentment against leadership and there's a reason. 378 00:25:20,319 --> 00:25:25,240 There really is a reason why we can have that stigma about leadership. 379 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:30,160 Maybe we experience some things along the way that we're like, I don't trust people in 380 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,839 church, I trust people outside of church more than I trust people in church. 381 00:25:35,380 --> 00:25:38,039 And I know some of you had those experiences, right? 382 00:25:38,579 --> 00:25:45,900 Where it's like, like just abuse, either, either like greed or mispriorities, 383 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,039 you know, or whatever it might be. 384 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,019 And so, you know, you kind of have this stigma against leadership 385 00:25:52,019 --> 00:25:55,039 because you, you prejudge things and I get it. 386 00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:57,200 I've done it, I've done it. 387 00:25:57,319 --> 00:26:01,799 Don't tell anybody I'm confessing to a great cloud of witnesses, but I've done, 388 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:07,259 I've had this attitude, you know, about, well, probably, you know, based on the 389 00:26:07,259 --> 00:26:13,299 past, you know, I was in the hospital, um, the Lord gave me a couple of good 390 00:26:13,299 --> 00:26:15,319 metaphors, but I'm not going to use them all today. 391 00:26:15,660 --> 00:26:16,519 Got to save a few. 392 00:26:17,999 --> 00:26:23,240 But as I'm just thinking, you know, and you know how Paul talks about how each 393 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,880 body has its own member, you know, and I mean, the body of Christ has different 394 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,460 members and he says, you know, the eye doesn't say to the hand, I don't need 395 00:26:32,460 --> 00:26:33,380 you, right? 396 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,680 And the head doesn't turn down to the foot and say, what are you doing here? 397 00:26:37,019 --> 00:26:38,220 I have no need for you. 398 00:26:38,420 --> 00:26:39,160 That's silly, right? 399 00:26:39,460 --> 00:26:41,839 The body is all important, right? 400 00:26:42,420 --> 00:26:46,119 And so I'm learning more and more how important the heart is. 401 00:26:46,140 --> 00:26:48,759 Not that I never knew that, but I always knew that, but the 402 00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:49,940 heart is very important. 403 00:26:49,940 --> 00:26:54,099 I've learned a lot about lungs too, in the past couple of years, but how 404 00:26:54,099 --> 00:26:56,500 important they are, but I have a graphic. 405 00:26:56,700 --> 00:27:01,720 If you could put that up there, Tosh, about the body and the mind and the 406 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,339 heart, and you know how, you know, the mind and the heart, they have to 407 00:27:06,339 --> 00:27:07,859 work together, right? 408 00:27:08,380 --> 00:27:12,519 Because there's all kinds of electrical, you know, pulses going back and 409 00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:15,160 forth and signals, and they have to say, all right, you know what we're 410 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:15,920 doing now, right? 411 00:27:16,380 --> 00:27:17,500 You know what your role is? 412 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,819 Heart, you only have one way of a lot of roles, but 413 00:27:19,819 --> 00:27:27,240 one is to push blood through that is deoxygenated, okay, and push it 414 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:32,220 through to the lungs so it comes back oxygenated and then push it out to 415 00:27:32,220 --> 00:27:33,380 the body, to the body. 416 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,460 I hope I'm getting that right. 417 00:27:34,579 --> 00:27:35,839 Mike, am I getting that kind of right? 418 00:27:36,099 --> 00:27:36,279 All right. 419 00:27:36,339 --> 00:27:36,759 Thank you, brother. 420 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,500 You know, so that's what the lungs do. 421 00:27:39,839 --> 00:27:44,079 I mean, the lungs with the heart and the mind is working with them, you 422 00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:46,299 know, knowing, yeah, okay, we're on the right path here. 423 00:27:46,380 --> 00:27:47,319 We're doing the right thing. 424 00:27:47,420 --> 00:27:47,839 Okay. 425 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,799 Cause the body has to work together. 426 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,440 And so I have a graphic of that first heart. 427 00:27:55,619 --> 00:28:00,440 Now this isn't my heart in case you were wondering, okay, just in case I'm 428 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,599 not a cartoon, but no, so this is the heart, right? 429 00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:07,000 And we see this, how the blood goes in, right? 430 00:28:07,539 --> 00:28:10,039 And it goes back out, it comes back in, it goes back out. 431 00:28:10,180 --> 00:28:10,299 Right. 432 00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:13,400 And so this is the heart. 433 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,960 And if it's working properly and working together in conjunction, 434 00:28:19,539 --> 00:28:21,019 it has a rhythm, right? 435 00:28:21,099 --> 00:28:22,119 It all works together. 436 00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:25,900 You know, it's pumping, it's pumping, going in, going out. 437 00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:29,160 We're acting, we're working smoothly together. 438 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:29,700 Okay. 439 00:28:30,099 --> 00:28:30,980 Everything's good. 440 00:28:31,099 --> 00:28:32,339 The body's healthy. 441 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,380 You know, that's what's with the body of crisis supposed to be like. 442 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,619 Everyone knows their part and our parts might shift over time. 443 00:28:41,619 --> 00:28:43,720 Oh, actually there's a vacuum over here. 444 00:28:43,740 --> 00:28:46,779 I better start filling in and helping over here. 445 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:49,339 Oh, actually this is good. 446 00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:50,900 Now, actually I should go over there. 447 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,819 Like God might move us around a bit, but we all have a role and we work 448 00:28:55,819 --> 00:29:01,319 together to accomplish the goal of pointing people to Jesus Christ. 449 00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:02,819 It's his body. 450 00:29:03,140 --> 00:29:05,039 The church is his body, right? 451 00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:07,680 And so that's how it's supposed to operate. 452 00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:10,839 Well, my heart has a little thing going on. 453 00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:16,099 If you have that next slide, okay, and if you see that, there's, and 454 00:29:16,099 --> 00:29:21,420 that's kind of where they're at to these, this scarring on my left ventricle. 455 00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:24,240 You never thought you'd be seeing my heart here on the screen, did you? 456 00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:27,579 But, but, uh, I'm just laying my heart out for you. 457 00:29:27,660 --> 00:29:28,019 Okay. 458 00:29:29,299 --> 00:29:32,480 No, but so we got some scarring going on here. 459 00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:37,140 Now as a result, it might be, you know, we're holding onto those things. 460 00:29:37,140 --> 00:29:41,099 We can't be flexible and we can't adjust. 461 00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:46,140 And sadly, what happens to some people is just, they just say, Oh, these 462 00:29:46,140 --> 00:29:49,259 people are weird or these people, you know, they don't understand me. 463 00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:51,240 I want it my way or no way. 464 00:29:51,420 --> 00:29:55,319 And, and it has to, and they, and they go about from one church to the 465 00:29:55,319 --> 00:30:01,119 next in a sense, kind of lonely because they think they're being dismissed. 466 00:30:01,380 --> 00:30:05,920 They're not understood when really they have, they have scars. 467 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:11,519 They need to be healed from, you know, and the Lord wants to heal us of past scars, 468 00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:17,140 past disappointments so that we can be in line so we could be part of what Christ 469 00:30:17,140 --> 00:30:21,140 wants to do through the church to bring his glory. 470 00:30:21,339 --> 00:30:21,480 Amen. 471 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:23,160 Amen. 472 00:30:27,620 --> 00:30:30,460 Thanks for joining us at Lansdale Life Church. 473 00:30:30,460 --> 00:30:32,960 As we praise God and discuss his word. 474 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,799 Don't forget to join us for worship live Sunday mornings at 10 a.m. 475 00:30:38,140 --> 00:30:39,140 Eastern on YouTube. 476 00:30:40,180 --> 00:30:42,240 Be blessed and have a great day.