Judges Study - 2026-10-28

Judges Study - 2026-10-28

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An ongoing study of the book of Judges. This week’s lesson is presented by Jamie Allebach.

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Welcome to the Lansdale Life Church podcast.

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If you're seeking a closer relationship with Jesus Christ, this podcast is for you.

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Heavenly Father, we just bless you tonight, God, as we gather together.

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Lord, we give you all the praise and all the worship, Lord.

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Tonight, God, you are worthy of it all.

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We lay before you, God, all the issues of the day, all the troubles in our hearts,

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Lord, all the things that are clouding our minds, Lord.

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We lay them at your feet now, and we come to you, Lord, with open hearts and open minds,

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Lord, ready to receive your word, God, through your scripture, God.

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We pray tonight that we come to better understand a portion of your story,

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Lord, and how it can apply to our lives, Lord, and what it means to us, Lord.

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We just pray for your spirit to be here among us, Lord.

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Holy Spirit, just come and anoint your scripture here, God, and anoint this time in Jesus' name.

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Amen.

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All right, so we are in Judges 11 tonight.

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So recapping real quick from Judges 10.

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Israel had once again abandoned the Lords and turned to foreign Gods.

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I feel like at least 95% of the times I talk, it starts out that way.

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I mean, the people of Israel abandoned God and have moved on to other things.

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Maybe it's just my timing.

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I don't know.

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But, you know, so God had allowed the Ammonites and the Philistines to oppress them.

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And after 18 years of suffering through this, and this was all covered last week by John,

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their cries for deliverance, God hears their cry.

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And so the Ammonites, they assemble for war.

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They're getting ready to go to battle and then enter Jebthah, who is an unlikely leader

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with some complicated things in his past.

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So that's where you guys left off last week and where we're starting here in Judges 11.

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And this is a great book.

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I mean, this is a great chapter in the book of Judges.

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It's just a fascinating piece.

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And there's so much, once again, there's so much to unpack from what God is doing.

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Jebthah rises up out of rejection and becomes the deliverer for Israel,

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you know, that presents this contrast of a guy who, you know, comes from this background,

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this challenging background and steps forward, but then makes some really bad decisions.

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Again, not an uncommon story here.

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So let's start out one through three.

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Jebthah, the Guineanite, was a mighty warrior.

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His father was Gilead.

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His mother was a prostitute.

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Gilead's wife also bore him sons.

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And when they were grown up, they drove Jebthah away.

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You are not going to get any inheritance in our family, they said,

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because you are the son of another woman.

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So, Jebthah fled from his brothers and settled in the land of Taub,

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where a gang of scoundrels gathered around him and followed him.

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Some great language there to layer through.

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So, Jebthah is introduced as this mighty warrior with the caveat that his mother was a prostitute,

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right?

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So, his half-brothers are, you know, stepping in and denying him,

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basically getting him out of town, and then he leaves and connects with this group of men.

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So, you know, his family is judging him on his birth circumstances rather than who he is,

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his character and his ability and what Gods call him to.

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So, sound familiar?

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Because Jesus, that would have followed Jesus around for his entire life.

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The fact that he would have been born, you know, born when he was conceived out of wedlock.

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Solomon, you know, had some of that background.

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Ishmael.

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Could have gone, you know, if different circumstances and he could have gone in a different

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pathway.

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Rahab was a prostitute herself and the mother of Boaz, who was what?

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The great grandfather of King David.

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So, you know, all throughout the Bible, there are characters and people who, you know,

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their birth circumstances or just circumstances in general are not that of what we would consider.

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Well, these are people who would really, really make it in the world.

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So, Jephthah's brothers saw the past of his mother instead of seeing the potential of what

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God had for their step-brother.

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So, this is, again, this is just a redemptive story all throughout the Bible that God just

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loves to redeem people who everyone has already cast aside and said, you know, that he likes

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to see people that we want to put limits on because of what we see.

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God is saying, I can accomplish so much more, more through them.

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So, his rejection then places him outside of the family structure, outside of his tribe,

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but he develops this reputation as a capable leader and a warrior.

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The text, if you look through the various translations, you know, it alludes to scoundrels or

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lawless man or, you know, the unsavory bunch he was hanging out with.

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The Hebrew expression kind of conveys this idea of, you know, empty man or worthless man

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or people that just didn't necessarily have a place in society outcasts and wanderers,

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men without position or livelihood.

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And you know how I look at Scripture whenever I see something that seems a little odd?

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You got to do a little digging.

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So, how did he develop this reputation as a warrior and as a leader?

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Well, this group, they must have been men who supported themselves through armed expeditions,

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you know, or raids or hired fighting or mercenaries or something.

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And I immediately thought of, not the mercenary part, but kind of the ragtag group.

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I thought of David, you know, in 1 Samuel 22 where he attracts men, you know, who were in distress

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and death and disconnected in the form of fighting force under his leadership.

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Also, you know, immediately connected the situation with Jephthah and related it,

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and we'll talk a little bit more about this later, with Joseph, you know, who was rejected

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by his brothers. They even took it a step further and tried to kill him, but then he

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became an instrument of deliverance for his brothers. So, Jephthah goes from being rejected

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by the family and the tribe to become a leader of outsiders, so his years in exile that he's

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out there, kind of help him develop this persona of leadership and military leader.

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And again, it's this idea of human rejection doesn't disqualify us from what God has for us

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or what God wants to use us for. So let's continue. 4-11, so sometime later

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when the Ammonites were fighting against Israel, the elders of Gilead went to get Jephthah

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from the land of top. Come, they said, be our commander so we can fight the Ammonites.

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Jephthah said to them, didn't you hate me and drive me from my father's house?

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Why do you come to me now when you're in trouble? The elders of Gilead said,

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nevertheless, we are turning to you now. Come with us to fight the Ammonites and you will

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head over all of us who live in Gilead. Jephthah answered, suppose you take me back

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to fight the Ammonites and the Lord gives them to me. Will I really be your head?

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The elders of Gilead said, the Lord is our witness. We will certainly do as you say.

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So Jephthah went with the elders of Gilead and the people made him head and commander over them.

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And they repeated all his words before the Lord admits them.

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So when the Ammonites are threatened, I mean, when the Ammonites threaten Gilead,

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you know, the elders are seeking help. So they're going to someone who they believe

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is going to be able to deliver them. And you got to love, you got to kind of read into the

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tone here a little bit from Jephthah, you know, didn't you hate me and drive me out of

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my father's house? So he's kind of getting a little snarky with them. So they offer him

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this position if he'll fight. And Jephthah, of course, is just a bit skeptical. So he says,

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well, what if I come in and win and you don't really do what I say? So he kind of gets, he's

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making sure that he's negotiating here. So he's making sure he's getting the deal that he wants.

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So the question that immediately came to mind was, you know, why did the elders seek out

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Jephthah? I mean, certainly there had to be other capable fighters and other capable men

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that could do this. And it says he was recognized as a mighty warrior. So he had gained a name

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and a reputation out there. So Gilead was facing destruction from the powerful Ammonite army.

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And the leaders were desperate to find someone who they really felt. So he must have been

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quite the guy because they really sought him out. And there's irony here because the man that they

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considered unworthy, you know, to even be a part of the household that he was in and the tribe

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that they were in, they feel he's the guy that's going to be able to deliver them. And I think

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they had to swallow their pride a little bit, right? I mean, they had to eat a little bit of crow

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to go back to him. And that takes humility. So they approached the man that they had basically

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kicked out and they're asking him now in humility for help. So there's a bit of a reversal here.

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And I think, again, this is a lesson for us to learn that when God is in something,

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we can't take that road of pride. And Jephthah, he had a choice to make too, pride or humility,

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because he could have easily said, go pound sand. I'm not helping you guys. I'm not doing it. Look

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what you did to me. I'm doing all right over here with my mercenary friends and we're getting by

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and we're doing good. I'm not going to help you. He could have easily refused it for the

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way that they mistreated him, but instead he agrees. And I think this reveals two sides

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of him. One is he's willing to move beyond. And I don't know if you've ever been in a situation

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like that where you've been rejected or been harshly treated. And now you have the opportunity

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to either put it back in their face or be humble about it. And he chose to be humble about it.

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But he also wanted something out of it as far as a guarantee of position. So he was negotiating,

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which is practical wisdom, which shows he had some level of ambition for that.

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And I think Jephthah also recognized God's authority and God's power and God's ability

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to deliver this through him. So he acknowledged and said, ultimately,

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this is the Lord. He said, suppose you take me back and I fight the Ammonites and the Lord

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gives them to me. He doesn't say, suppose I go back and I win. He said, suppose the Lord

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gives them to me. So he understands that his strength and military strength alone cannot deliver

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that it was in God's hand to do it. And how many times have we seen that now in the Old Testament

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studies where realizing that it's the hand of God that delivers them and when they rely on themselves

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doesn't go as well. So getting back to Joseph, there's a powerful parallel here

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with the story of Joseph, how his brothers rejected him. And then years later,

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when God has a way of moving no matter what happens in our circumstances. So God had a plan

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for Joseph. His brothers were trying to thwart that. And he got taken away in the slavery,

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but still God took him to that position that he wanted him in. So, you know, Joseph had the power

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then when his brothers came and said, hey, we need help. He had the power to basically retaliate

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to them, but he ultimately chose reconciliation. He chose the path of humility and Jephthah took

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that same thing. So, you know, a couple of things that I pulled out of that is, you know,

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rejection by those around us, even those close to us, doesn't mean that we're disqualified

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from serving God. Humility sometimes means asking for help, even from somebody we may have

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wronged. Forgiveness doesn't necessarily eliminate the need for boundaries. You know, Jephthah had,

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you know, he forgave and took the path of humility, but he still kind of set some

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boundaries there. And pride can exist on both sides of reconciliation. It's just a matter of

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having a humble heart that God wants us to have. So, 12 through 28, this is a long passage here,

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but I had to group it all together, so I'll try my best to get through it.

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Then Jephthah sent messengers to the Ammonite king with the question,

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what do you have against me that you have attacked my country? The king of the Ammonites answered

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Jephthah's messengers. When Israel came up out of Egypt, they took away my land from the

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Arnhem to the Jepak, all the way to the Jordan. Now give it back peaceably. Jephthah sent back

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messengers to the Ammonite king saying, this is what Jephthah says, Israel did not take the land

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of Moab or the land of the Ammonites. But when they came out of Egypt, Israel went through the

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wilderness to the Red Sea and on to Kadesh. Then Israel sent messengers to the king of Edom saying,

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give us permission to go through your country, but the king of Edom would not listen.

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They also sent to the king of Moab and he refused, so Israel stayed in Kadesh.

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Next, they traveled through the wilderness, skirted the lands of Edom and Moab,

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passed along the eastern side of the country of Moab and camped on the other side of Arnhem.

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They did not enter the territory of Moab from the arm and was its border. This is all a little

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historical recap here. Then Israel sent messengers to Sion, king of the Ammonites,

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who ruled in Heshban and said to him, let us pass through your country to our own place.

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Sion, however, did not trust Israel to pass through his territory. He mustered all his troops

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and encamped at Jeaz and fought with Israel. Then the Lord God of Israel gave Sion and his

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whole army into Israel's hands and they defeated them. Israel took over

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all the land and the Ammonites who lived in the country, capturing all of it from the Arnhem

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to the Jabakh and from the desert to Jordan. Now, since the Lord God of Israel has driven

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the Ammonites out before his people of Israel, what right have you to take it over?

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Will you not take what your God, will you not take what your God, Chemosh, gives you?

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Likewise, whatever the Lord our God has given us, we will possess. Are you any better than Bawak,

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son of Zippur, king of Moab? Did he ever quarrel with Israel or fight with him?

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For 300 years, Israel occupied Heshban, Aror and the surrounding sediments and all the towns of Arnhem.

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Why didn't you retake them during that time? I have not wronged you, but you are doing me wrong

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by waging war against me. Let the Lord, the Judge, decide the dispute this day between the

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Israelites and the Ammonites. The king of Ammon, however, paid no attention to the message

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Jephthah sent. That was quite a message that he sent to his, through his messenger, right?

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So, I don't know how he memorized all that, but that's a lot to take in.

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So, before fighting, Jephthah attempts diplomacy with the king, and the Ammonite king claims

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Israel. Well, you guys stole this during Exodus. So, what we see here is that there's more to Jephthah

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than just his fighting prowess, right? He's more than just an outcast. He is a learned man. I mean,

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he knows his history. So, there's three arguments that he presents to the king. He says,

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one, Israel didn't steal Armin's land. During the accident, Israel avoided conflict with Edom and

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Moab, but when King Sion of the Ammonites refused Israel's passage and attacked them,

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Israel defeated him and took his territory, not Ammon's. So, let's qualify that a little

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bit because I had to look into that. So, Israel didn't conquer Ammon. They defeated the Ammonites

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after they were attacked by them, but Ammon was under the authority and in the territory

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of the Ammonites. So, it just kind of became the spoils of war. Do you understand that? So,

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he's claiming, the Ammon king is claiming basically that you stole it and just kind of

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took it and he's saying, no, it was conquered. So, the second point that Jephthah is making is God

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gave this land to us. So, Jephthah argues that the Lord delivered the Ammonites into Israel's

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giving Israel a legitimate claim to the territory. And then his last point was,

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come on guys, Israel has possessed this land for 300 years. If the land truly belonged to you,

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why hadn't you challenged this before, for three centuries? So, there's probably more happening

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in here than what's being revealed in here. So, there was probably other things going on with

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the king that's kind of forcing this. We don't have all the details here in this chapter,

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but I'm sure that they're there. The other little nuance that I really liked

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in that passage toward the end is when Jephthah refers to the Lord as the judge.

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So, this is kind of the concept that he is, and this is a theme that we've been following

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all throughout the Old Testament study here is that God establishes justice. God is a just

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God. So, he's saying, we're going to put this in the hands of the judge, the just God,

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who's going to render his decision. So, he's appealing to God as the ultimate authority in all of this.

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So, the day comes, 29 through 33. So, then the Spirit of the Lord came on Jephthah.

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He crossed Gilead and passed through the mitzpah of Gilead. And from there,

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he advanced against the Ammonites, and Jephthah made a vow to the Lord.

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If you give me the Ammonites into my hands, whatever comes out of the door of my house

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to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the Lord's, and I will

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sacrifice it as a burnt offering. Then Jephthah went over to fight the Ammonites, and the Lord gave them

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into his hands. He devastated 20 towns from Ahor to the vicinity of Minath, as far as Abel,

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Keramont, thus Israel subdued Ammon. So, this is the climax of the chapter here. So,

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this is the turning point of things. The Spirit of the Lord was on Jephthah, and he advances,

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and God gives him victory. God's Spirit empowers him in this role to deliver, and the victory is

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explicitly attributed to the Lord, and he wins. And then, in the midst of all of this,

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Jephthah makes this vow that changes everything. So, he promises that if God grants him victory,

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whatever comes out of his house to meet him will belong to the Lord, and it will be sacrificed

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as a burnt offering. So, this is really a troubling verse. One, we know from our

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studies that vowels are taken very, very serious in these ancient times. They're a serious commitment,

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and they are regulated by God's law. Numbers 30 verse 2 says, vowels are not to be treated

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lightly. Deuteronomy 23, 21 through 23, says voluntary vowels created obligations. Leviticus

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27, 1 through 8 says certain vowels involving persons could be addressed through prescribed

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valuation. So, the critical question was, was Jephthah, was he trusting God's promise,

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or was he trying to bargain with God at some point on something that was already pre-determined?

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So, God already had said that I'm going to deliver it, or was he kind of, you know,

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says the Spirit of the Lord was on him. Was he kind of riding this spiritual high and just kind of

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saying something that's just rolling off? You know, have you ever been caught up in a moment

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where you just kind of take it too far? No, never. I don't want to interrupt you. We never have,

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of course. There are so many things that could be at play here, but I think an important thing

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to distinguish is that, you know, when God anoints us or empowers us or puts his Spirit on us

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for something in particular, or a certain mission or some type of act if we're praying for someone

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and God's Spirit just comes heavy, heavy on it, it doesn't mean that every subsequent situation

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is going to be God's anointing on us and that level of Spirit, or even God approved for that

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fact. You know, I mean, we, you know, all throughout Scripture and really all throughout

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society we see, you know, misuse of spiritual authority or anointing, you know, that God has put

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on places. I mean, Saul, David, Samson, you know, I mean, even Moses, you know, who was, you know,

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saw the face of God, you know, and was so anointed and so Spirit-led had moments where,

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you know, he was just out of sync with God. Solomon, you know, for sure, who was gifted with this

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anointing of wisdom, yet he made disastrous spiritual compromises and really bad, bad decisions.

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You know, Uzziah, God, helped him become powerful, but he eventually overstepped the authority

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that God had given him. So, Spirit, again, spiritual empowerment and personal wisdom

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are not the same thing and they all think, kind of, go in different ways, but Scripture,

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the text here never tells us that this vow was prompted by the Spirit. It does not say that.

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I mean, you could, if you're glossing through it, you can make the assumption,

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oh, he was full of the Spirit and then he made this vow. Well, that's just not how it's laid out.

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So, it's an important nuance because God had already empowered him to win, okay? He didn't

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need to bargain for another divine positioning. So, God's calling for us and God's Spirit on us

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and God's anointing in times is not a license to do whatever we want. We have to be subjected to God.

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34 to 40. When Jephthah returned to his home in Mitzpah, who should come out to meet him,

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but his daughter? Dancing to the sound of timbrels. She was an only child, except for her,

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he had neither son nor daughter. When he saw her, he tore his clothes and cried, oh no,

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my daughter, you have brought me down and I am devastated. I have made a vow to the Lord

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that cannot break. My father, she replied, you have given your word to the Lord

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due to me, just as you promised, now that the Lord has avenged you and your enemies,

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the Ammonites. But grant me this one request, she said, give me two months to roam hills

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and weep with my friends because I will never marry. You may go, he said, and he let her go

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for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never marry.

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After the two months, she returned to her father and he did as he had vowed, and she was a virgin.

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From this comes the Israelite tradition that each year the young women of Israel go out

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for four days to commemorate the daughter of Jephthah, the Gilead.

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So, Jephthah returns home victorious and his daughter meets him and it's like,

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what was I thinking? The joy turns into immediate grief and

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she accepts the seriousness of this. Imagine that conversation, you know?

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I mean, imagine having that conversation with your daughter. It's like,

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sorry, but I did this vow thing. And then she's just like, hey, dad, I get it. All right.

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I don't think any of my daughters, either of my daughters, would be on board with that.

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And the chapter closes with this troubling account of Jephthah carrying out the vow

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and the Israelite women annually commemorating. So, I'm like, immediately, you know,

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did Jephthah actually sacrifice his daughter? So, this is a debated scripture. I think it's great

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to debate scripture. I think there's a place and a time in something like this where you can look at

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interpretation. One would be the literal sacrifice where Jephthah offered his daughter as a burnt

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offering, like he said he was doing, just as he vowed. Arguments would include, you know, okay,

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a burnt offering as described, you know, that is what it is. And interpretation, too, is okay,

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was it a lifelong dedication? Because Jephthah's dedicated his daughter to a lifelong service and

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perpetual virginity, so she never could marry. So, was that what it was? You know, there's

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emphasis throughout this text here that we just read in reference to the virginity and her never

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marrying. So, you know, the literal sacrifice is what's most widely accepted. But, you know,

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I also have to question in that from a scriptural perspective because Deuteronomy 1231, God explicitly

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prohibits the burning of children and sacrifices. So, you know, did God allow Jephthah to go

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break his own rules? I don't know. Ecclesiastes 5.2-6 warns against these rash promises. 1 Samuel

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15.22 reminds us that obedience matters more than sacrifice. So, you know,

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again, many times there are things we just don't know, okay, so we don't really know what it is.

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But I think regardless of what the outcome was back then, you know, it was a really bad,

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really bad decision for Jephthah to make that statement. And, you know, it gives us pause,

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you know, to say, hey, our words mean things, first of all. You know, when we make a statement like

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that and when we make a vow like that, especially to God, when we make it in haste and, you know,

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we've all made promises, you know, to one another or even to God, you know, at points. And

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it's a challenging thing to read. But regardless of the interpretation, you know, I think that

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there's lessons to be learned in this. So, a couple of points here. You know, another

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surprising part of this story of Jephthah is that he's named among the heroes of faith

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in Hebrews 11.32 alongside Gideon, Barak, Samson, David, and Samuel. So,

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why is Jephthah listed among the heroes of faith?

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Let's read on. You know, one of the keys to understanding, you know, what the author

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of Hebrews is saying, he's celebrating faith of these people, not their perfection. So,

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nowhere is he saying that all these heroes of faith are perfect. It's just that they stepped out.

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So, Jephthah trusted God. He trusted him to deliver Israel. So, despite the opposition,

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despite the odds, Jephthah acknowledged that the victory belonged completely to God and he

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trusted in God. You know, and God used an imperfect man for his purpose, just like he used

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David, just like he used Samson, just like he used Gideon. These were all people who had

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tremendous flaws that God chose to use. So, faith does not eliminate necessary the consequences of

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bad decisions, but it also doesn't prohibit God from using you in a powerful way. So,

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wrapping this up,

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it's a great story of contrast. You know, you've got a rejected son who becomes the deliverer

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of Israel. He's an outcast that demonstrates, you know, extraordinary knowledge of God

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and understands the power of God. He's a spirit empowered warrior who wins a decisive victory,

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but a reckless vow brings tragedy into his home. You know, it reminds all of us,

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you know, that God accomplishes great things. This is, again, a reoccurring story, a reoccurring theme

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throughout Scripture that God accomplishes great things through imperfect people, through average

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everyday people. But being used by God does not exempt us from the consequences of our decisions.

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So, you know, Jephthah knew enough about God to win the battle, but the story, it challenges us,

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you know, that we need to be constantly in that, in the spirit, in tune with God,

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and not being reckless with what we say. You know, so he was rejected and cast out

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from his family, and he becomes this capable leader. He was restored,

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called to deliver Israel. He was empowered by God who granted him victory,

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but there was a tragic and reckless vow that overshattered his success, you know. And, you know,

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for all of us, this should give us, again, and remind us that, you know, God wants all of us,

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as imperfect as we are, to play a part in his story, with all of our imperfections, with all of our

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stuff that we screw up on a daily basis, with all of our misunderstandings of him, with

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the whole package. He doesn't say, hey, Jamie, get your act together, and then you can

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play a part in this story. He brings me into the fold with him, and he's constantly

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refining me and changing me through these experiences, and he's doing that to all of that.

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And, you know, I didn't read ahead. Maybe we'll read about how Jephthah was, you know, learned

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through all of this, and it changed something, something in him, and said, you know, I need to

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stay in that spirit instead of getting caught up in it and kind of going off on my own.

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We don't know. So, I kind of went a little longer. Maybe we won't break down into groups,

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but maybe we'll just do some Q&A here. How does that sound? Yeah. It was a lot,

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so I went a little longer. Sorry. Questions. I mean, does it raise anything as we were going

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through the text, did anything jump out and say, well, that didn't make sense, and I'll do my best

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to try to answer. I can't guarantee I will be able to answer it. Or is there anything that kind

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of spoke to you that you can relate to in this text? Anything that jumped out that didn't seem

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right? Anything I messed up?

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I think I always can relate a little bit to Jephthah. Like, when they kick him out, and all

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of a sudden they want him in that position that, you know, we were overlooked, we were

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just having a word or two of this, you know, like shopping around or something. I'm like,

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I'll tell you, I'll give you a really good deal. Like, I don't know, okay, I'm all something

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for you back, but a week later. Do you still have that? So, now they're realizing that,

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you know, what they thought they were going to get somewhere else, they actually need me.

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Right. So, that's how I connect with that part of us.

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And in all honesty, when that happens, a lot of times on the inside, I'm going,

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you know, I knew they'd be back. And on the outside, I'm, you know, I'm just kind of,

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yeah, yeah, it's all good. And, you know, I think to have that, you know, I want to be able to have

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that true, you know, spirit of humility, saying that, okay, yeah, this is something that God,

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you know, brought back around. And that's hard sometimes because there's pride within us.

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Even if we're not showing on the outside, sometimes we just have that little nugget

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of pride in there that just gives us a little self-satisfaction that, yeah,

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glad they came back. So, that's a good point, Chris. Anybody else?

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Sure you are. You're Jewish.

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Well,

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Yeah, I mean, that's a, man, that's a, that's a big question, Orl. And I would say that,

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you know, that I honestly, I felt the same way at a point about, you know, the warfare in the Bible.

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In fact, I used to say, you know, I have such a hard time relating to the God of the Old Testament

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because he doesn't feel like the Jesus that I know and the loving God that I feel like I have

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a relationship with. And I think the more I began to understand, you know, in concepts,

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in context of what was happening, it kind of changed our perspective. Like a lot of times,

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at the heart of these warfares is, you know, God cleaning out things that are so

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perverse and so immoral that there's no way of redeeming what was there. And God is saying,

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we just have to wipe it out and start from scratch. And that's a hard concept to understand.

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But when you really get into studying some of these tribes, they were beyond evil. You know,

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children, sacrifice, the kind of most perverse sexual practices and bestiality and the kind of

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things that just, you know, makes a grown man blush just to even talk about. You know,

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and God was trying to cleanse that and remove all of that. And honestly, the warfare was prolonged

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for so long because of Israel's unwillingness to follow God's exact instructions. He would say,

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go in and take care of all of this, and they would leave a remnant. And that remnant would

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come back to do it. So it all comes back to mankind not following God's orders. So is there

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a point in time when the warfare really changes? And that would be most likely when they were

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taken over by Babylon. You know, so when Babylon came in and basically just took them over,

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they really didn't have the ability to do war against anyone. And I think that the real

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changing point in the history was Jesus. You know, when Jesus came and basically was

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trying to teach the Jews, this is the full meaning of all of this. This is the fulfillment

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of all of this. And there was things that were symbolic in the history here and in the laws

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and all of these things, but you're missing the big picture. The big picture is, you know,

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what this really means. And, you know, loving God and loving others is what He

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distilled it down to. So I don't know if that was a... I probably didn't fully answer

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your question, but I'm trying.

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Right. Yep. Great point. Great point. Andrew.

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I just like the whole purpose of all this evil, I guess, eventually

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are part of the same. So that's probably where the majority of violence kind of stopped. But

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still, even after that in Rome, Rome took over, there was still violence that happened in

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Rome, but when the gospel came, that's when the real... Like America wouldn't be possible,

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you know what I'm saying, without the costumes or whatever. Right. We live in a country that

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we don't sacrifice our dollars. Right.

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But, you know, the real question Arnold is isn't when did it stop, but the real question is when

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is it going to stop? And, you know, even Constantine was the first to weaponize

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Christianity and, you know, it took its form then, you know, in the crusades and all along,

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and you look at, you know, the wars and the murder and things that happened in the name of Christ

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and Jesus never, ever, ever condoned that ever. And it must break his heart to see that.

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So I think it's a... Mankind gravitates towards violence and warfare and will,

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you know, we have a tendency of perverting, you know, just about anything in the name of God's...

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You're talking about the Israelites. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

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Yeah. And then he has used that example, you know,

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was, you know, a few weeks ago or months, you know, with Gideon, you know, where, you know,

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Gideon's thinking that, okay, you know, I'm going to be taking 10,000 men up against 130,000 men.

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And in his own mind, he's thinking that this is going to be a fight. But in God's plan,

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it was never intended to be a fight. It was going to be, I'm going to give you the battle,

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but they're going to kind of turn on themselves. So in our minds, we think of something the way it

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should be, but in God's mind, there's something completely different going on.

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You know, it stands out to me as a fact that God is willing to use us in spite of our

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tendencies to throw it all away. Because as Jesus said, he said, you have to depend on me because

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you have nothing. You have to do it through me. You have to allow my spirit to do it through you.

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Otherwise, yeah, you could fall down. But he doesn't have any expectations for us through

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otherwise, unless we are spinning a violin again. So I think a real challenge for us

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just to remember, even with the spiritual gifts we've given, they have to be used

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with his guidance and with his power to throw us. We can go off the rails any time

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and misuse them. When I'm careful, we just have to stay focused on him.

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And that was God's whole message with Gideon, right? He said, if you have 30,000 men

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against 130, you can still possibly take credit for those odds. Even if you have 10,

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you still might be able to take some credit. But if you have 300, you're not taking any credit for

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that. All the glory goes to God. And we can apply that same type of thinking

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to us from a spiritual perspective is that there's a lot we can do on our own.

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Even here with what I love about the Jebthas is that he really did, right from the beginning,

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have that faith that God was going to deliver this. And he really trusted in that. So when we

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think of the things that are in our sphere of influence and things that we do in our work and

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in our family and just the stuff that we even do here at church, how much of it do we really

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try to do on our own and in our own strength just because we can, right? Instead of saying relying

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completely on and trusting completely in God and really seeking him as we're going through the

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process of, okay, is God's spirit, is his anointing on me as I'm doing this? Am I following in this

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path? Any other thoughts? Yeah. Yeah. Again, there's a lot of subjectivity there. I mean,

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it's so easy. Having been there, I know it's easy to get caught up in a moment.

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Doesn't make us any less committed to God when we have those moments because we all have those

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moments where we just like, yeah, let's keep going with this. Yeah. How many times have we

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seen that when God moves in revivals or things like that where God is doing something just special

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in a moment and man just tries to keep that ball rolling. And it just becomes so obvious that God's

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not in it at some point, but yet we're trying to keep that thing going. We're all guilty of it.

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And I think the redeeming piece of that is that he is mentioned in the whole faith there. So

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his defining moment shouldn't be that mistake that he made in the vow. That's not his defining moment.

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I was going to say, I loved in the book of Hebrews,

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faith because it's not women's but their sins. Right. And it's like all about God's grace.

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It just proves to us that it's all Jesus and it's same with our lives. Our sins are not going

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to be remembered. Yeah. And isn't that awesome? Because so often we're so hard on ourselves

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that we judge ourselves by these poor decisions and these what we would call defining moments.

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And God just doesn't see it that way. I mean, he's up there saying, just move on. It's like,

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I don't even remember it, you know, anymore.

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An emotional moment in that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We've all been kind of caught up in

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those moments. Yeah. And I think, you know, it's something for us to look at and learn from,

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but again, not in a judgmental way where we say that this, you know, what a dumb thing to do,

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because we've all done it in some way, shape or form. So, all right.

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Yeah, let's pray.

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God, we thank you for your grace and your mercy and your love for us, God. And we thank you, Lord,

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that we are not defined by our failures. We're not defined by our missteps,

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Lord, and the mistakes that we make and just the things that we do out of our imperfection,

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Lord. But we know that we are your children. We are your beloveds. And that is how we are

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defined. And that's how you see us, Lord. You see us, Lord, through what your Son Jesus did.

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You see us through the shed blood from the cross and the resurrection power. And you see us,

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you see our full potential, God. You see the best version of us that we could be, the version that

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you have planned and designed from the beginning. And that's what you see. And our time here on

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Earth is just a process where you are transforming us, God, into that. And we thank you for that.

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We thank you for every learning opportunity. We thank you for these stories, Lord, in Scripture

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that help us to see clearer the path you have for us, Lord, and to see clearer the grace

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that you want to extend further and further and further to us, Lord. We give you all the praise and

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glory tonight, God. And we just pray, Lord, that you give us practical opportunities this week to

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apply some of this in our lives and with others, Lord. We pray for opportunities to be able to

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share your kingdom this week, Lord. And we pray for opportunities to be able to minister

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to those in need, God, who need your spirit and need your grace, Lord. And we thank you, Lord,

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for salvation, Lord. We thank you, Lord, that you brought us into your kingdom, God. We thank you,

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Lord, that you are continually refining us, Lord, and drawing us closer to you, Lord. We pray

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that you be with us, God, as we travel home tonight, Lord, and for the rest of this

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week. In Jesus' name, amen. Thanks for joining us at Lansdale Life Church as we praise God and

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