Sunday Service -2025-08-17

Sunday Service -2025-08-17

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Exercising Your Senses To Discern Both Good And Evil
Hebrews 5:11-6:3

Pastor Chris Bonner

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Welcome to the Lansdale Life Church podcast.

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If you're seeking a closer relationship with Jesus Christ, this podcast is for you.

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Thank you for joining us today.

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So today's message is exercising your senses to discern both good and evil,

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which is obviously a verse in this section we're going to be reading.

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And as I was thinking about this, you know, discerning good and evil and

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suddenly the Lord said, but isn't that how you all got in trouble?

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And I said, what do you mean?

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Well, remember in the garden of Eden, okay, what did they do?

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They ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

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Right?

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And that's where the fall happened.

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And yet we're being told today to discern good from evil.

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So what's the difference?

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The difference is at that time, they were so innocent.

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All they could do is just respond to the words of God.

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They didn't have any alternative route to their own pleasure or lust or anything

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else. They just said, follow what God says.

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And everything he told them was great for them too, wasn't it?

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They didn't have to toil.

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They didn't have to struggle.

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They didn't have to by the sweat of their brow, you know, dig into the

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barren soil.

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Instead, everything was provided.

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And and that was all they needed is just to say yes to the Lord and to respond to

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him. And yet when the enemy came in and convinced them, then they ate from the

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tree of knowledge of good and evil and all of a sudden they saw the whole world

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differently. They saw their nakedness differently with a perversion.

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Everything they saw was through a perverted lens.

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Right.

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And yet now we're being told to discern both good and evil.

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What's the difference?

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Well, the difference is now that the veil and now that the genie came out of

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the bottle, I guess you'd say there's a saying that goes like that.

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Once once you know something, you can't unknow it.

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Right.

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What now?

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Well, by the power of God, we can discern it through the lens of Christ.

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We can discern everything through God's mind.

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We have the mind of God.

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Amen.

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I have another graphic I found just poking around and it shows this tree

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of knowledge of good and evil.

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But now it's rooted in the words.

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And now we can trust what God says about everything.

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And now we can have dominion in this fallen world.

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Right.

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And so that's the idea.

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So we're being told to exercise our senses and he's going to show us how

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as well.

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You know, in this passage, we're going to be talking about how it's

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important to keep progressing in the Lord.

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You know, you've heard of an analogy of faith being like a muscle.

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If you're not working it out, it's falling into atrophy.

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You know, there's many people have been bed laden for a long time

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through sicknesses.

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And when they come out, they can barely walk.

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Right.

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Because of the muscle atrophy in the same way.

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Faith atrophizes.

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Is that even a word?

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Probably not.

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Someone fact check me.

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It is now.

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Thank you, Ken.

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You know, but we atrophy sets in when we're not using things and

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exercising it in the same way, our faith and our knowledge of

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the word and using the word exercises that us because if we're

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not progressing, we're regressing.

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Right.

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We're falling backwards.

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There's no just saying steady.

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We have to be advancing or we're reverting, you know, and once

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you start reverting, it's a slippery slope to climb back up.

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You know, that's why they use the word

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backslidden, right, for someone who just starts to slide back

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down the hill because they they aren't advancing.

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We need to advance and advance.

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And this is not any kind of rebuke.

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Actually, it's an encouragement because we don't have to look

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at yesterday for results.

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We look at today and beyond.

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We have a destiny, right?

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We don't have to look at the past.

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Praise the Lord for that.

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He makes all things new.

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That means we don't have to look backwards.

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We can look at the present and forward and say, that's

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my future.

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Why study something from the past?

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So we have to be progressing, you know, in probably all of

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you, or if you've been in any kind of field of different

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things, you know, you probably had to take continuing

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education.

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I know I did in banking.

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I had to every year take a continuing education course

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and all that, you know, stuff.

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And yet I, you know, a lot of times you're like, I, when do

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I ever use this?

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Well, you probably do.

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You just don't realize it, but it's, you have to stay fresh.

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And in the same way, though, the Lord wants us to stay

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sharp and to progress in him so that we could be effective

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in this world and not backslide, right?

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So that's what this message is about.

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So let's, let's dive in.

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We're almost finished chapter five, and we're going to

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just read three verses in chapter six, not much scripture

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here, and, uh, we're going to read right through it and

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then talk a little.

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So Hebrews chapter five, verse 12.

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And if you can recall, the Lord spoke to the, the, those

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who received this letter and kind of rebuked them.

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You remember, he sort of insulted them.

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In fact, in verse 11, it says, you have become dull

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of hearing.

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Okay.

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So in other words, you know, you need to stop being

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dull of hearing.

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You need to wake up and listen.

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So verse 12, for though, by this time you ought to be

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teachers, you need someone to teach you again, the

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first principles of the oracles of God, and you have

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come to need milk and not solid food for everyone

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who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the

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word and righteousness, for he is a babe, but solid

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food belongs to those who are a full age.

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That is those who, by reason of use, have their

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senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

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Chapter six, therefore, leaving the discussion of

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elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to

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perfection, not laying again the foundation of

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repentance from dead works and a faith toward God of

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the doctrine of baptisms of laying on of hands of

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the resurrection of the dead and of eternal

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judgment, and this we will do if God permits.

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Let me just pick up this piece of paper because it

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fell and it's going to distract me.

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So here we're being told to grasp the principles

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and oracles of God.

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And when you think about it, like the oracles of

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God are what is said, but the principles behind

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it is why it's said, you know, you ever hear in

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the word for logos for the word is actually

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comprises not just the words being said, but the

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thought behind it.

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Have you ever heard that when you study the

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Greek word for, for speech or the word and the

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logos is actually both the mind and the words.

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You know, sometimes I speak before I think.

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Okay.

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In fact, sometimes up here and thank God the

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spirit just starts to say, Hey, where are you

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going with that?

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You know, get back on track.

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Right.

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And did you ever just start speaking?

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Maybe I had a little too much coffee or something.

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You just love that a little, a little, a little,

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and you're talking.

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You're like, what am I even saying?

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Just stop, stop right where you are.

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Okay.

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And I've learned to just tell myself shut up

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and stop.

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Okay.

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Because I don't even know what I'm about to

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say, you know, but really the Lord doesn't know.

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He knows and he speaks because he knows fully

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what he wants to say.

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Right.

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And so the words telling us that we should learn

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not only what was said, but why it was said the

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principles behind it.

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Right.

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You know, why does God do and say what he

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wants to say and do, you know, remember when

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you were, um, I don't know if your parents, I

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don't recall my parents ever saying this, but

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they probably did.

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But at some point when you're a child and

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you're always saying, why do I need to do this?

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Why do I need to do that?

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And you're like, just shut up and do it.

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What you're told, maybe your parents didn't

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say shut up, but yeah, they say, just do it.

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Don't ask questions.

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Why?

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And you know, that's because sometimes when

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our minds aren't able to comprehend the why

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we just need to listen.

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Like, you know, if somebody else is someone

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else out in the street, get out of the

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street and there's a car coming.

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Why?

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Well, because there's a car, what kind of

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car, what you're making model is it, you

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know, get out of, you know, sometimes there's

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no time to just like explain to someone the

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wise, right?

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Okay.

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But the Lord wants us to know the wise because

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he wants us to fully grasp what he's doing.

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Remember when Jesus spoke to his disciples

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and he said, I no longer call you servants.

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That means like slaves, but I call you

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friends because the master of the house

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doesn't say to a slave, all right, this

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is what I'm doing and this is why I'm doing

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it, but I give you the mysteries of what's

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going on in heaven, the why, and you know,

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it's so much better to know why something

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should be done or why something is said,

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because if you know why it's so much easier

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than to do it, isn't it?

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Did you ever notice that?

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How do I apply this?

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If I don't even understand why I'm doing

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it, right?

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And a lot of times in academics, we could

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just be told things, told things

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without the why and then even worse, how to do it.

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So it's like the what, the why and the how.

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How do I do?

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How do I apply what's being said?

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But here, the author, I keep wanting to call

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him Paul, but whoever the author, it's,

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we know it's the Holy Spirit is saying to

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us, ask, seek and knock for the why and

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then the how, not just to know, remember

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the word even says, you know, you can

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get puffed up with knowledge, right?

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And it's just knowing things, but why are

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we knowing them if we're not applying them

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in our lives, right?

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I've met so many people in so many arenas

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that were really like deep and dark into

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spiritual darkness, you know, I mean,

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like, you know, demonic situations and they

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know the word like front words and backwards.

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It's scary.

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It really is scary.

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I don't know if you ever met anyone like

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that, but a lot of people, you know, the

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devil has used, you know, cause them to

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know the principles of the word, to work

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against Christ, to be the antiChrist,

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you know, so the enemy knows the word,

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right?

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He knows the devil spoke to Jesus in

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the desert with what?

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The word.

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He knows it, right?

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He knows it, but when you embrace the

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why and the how and you love the

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author of the word, then we can have real

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power in our lives, right?

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So, so the word's telling us to not just not

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just be satisfied with the articles, but

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the principles behind them.

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And then he compares really the word to

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food, okay, the milk and, and so forth.

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And I know this is, you know, this has

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been taught, thank God for years in

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Christendom about the milk and the meat.

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And I'm sure you've heard it.

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And even like, even in a message, you

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know, when I'm like, you know, just

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getting ready for the word, I want to

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make sure I have lots of milk and meat,

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you know, because you, you really do

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need both and not just for this

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seasoned Christian milk is good.

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Okay.

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Every baby that's been born in this

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fellowship has started off nursing,

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right?

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Because they need that milk effect in

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the beginning years or months, at

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least, you know, there's so many

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nutrients, vitamins, autoimmune

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buildup and all these chemicals in

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this milk that the babies need to be

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drinking to be fortified and to be

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prepared, right, so that their body

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can stay healthy as vulnerable

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infants, right?

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So everyone starts with milk, even

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if you've been converted to a bottle,

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you know, it's still about the milk.

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We all have to start there.

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So milk is great.

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And you know, even being reminded

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of the milk, that the basics of our

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faith is important.

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It really is.

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I remember sometimes, you know, I've

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been saved for years, but sometimes

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I'll just come across like Billy

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Graham, given the gospel, and I'll

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just start tearing up.

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Like I heard it like, not for the

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first time, but probably the second

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time, like, and just like welling

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up like, wow, something about this,

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this man of God and the voice and,

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and the truth, you know, the simple

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gospel, if you're a believer, that's

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like, that's like rejuvenating, but

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it's milk.

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It's the basics of our faith.

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Yet we always need the milk, right?

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But then we can also build up, build

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up our cuisine to more meaty things.

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And even when I'm preparing these

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words, I like to throw in some

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stories or tidbits that some of

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you have studied before, you're

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like, oh, I remember that story.

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Or maybe you go home again and

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reread it and so forth, because

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it's those meaty things sometimes

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that like really makes you even

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more want to dive into the gospel,

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not just to stay with the milk, but

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to really build up your knowledge

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of the word, because the more you

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know, if you're always taking in

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the milk also, and always keeping

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it about the simplicity of Jesus

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Christ, you can use everything you

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learn about God for his glory, you

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know, so there's nothing wrong

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with milk and there's nothing

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wrong with meat.

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It's really we need both, but

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really it's wanting more.

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It's wanting more like I even

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like when I encourage you, you

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know, as far as when you're doing

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your daily reading, you know,

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move beyond just the daily bread

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or one little devotional.

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And it's not, again, not a

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rebuke, but it's like, if

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you're reading one little thing

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and what someone says about it,

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you're kind of almost getting

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regurgitated milk in a sense, no

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offense. But if you're just

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saying, Lord, your spirit's in

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me, I want to, I want to dive

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it and really dig in. And

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commentaries are great because

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they've done even more study

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than you're going to do.

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Right. And looking at what

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they say about it through the

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generations, you know, and it's

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just, wow, this is such

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tremendous meat. So we really

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do want to be built up in this.

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And then he says, well, let's

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look again at verse one to

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three in chapter six.

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Therefore, leaving the

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discussion of elementary

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principles of Christ, let us go

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on to perfection, not laying

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again the foundation of

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repentance from dead works and

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of faith toward God, of the

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doctrine of baptisms, of the

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laying on of hands, of the

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resurrection of the dead and

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of eternal judgment. And this

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we will do if God permits. Let

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us go on. He says to

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perfection. Now, wait a minute.

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I'm never going to be perfect

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this side of heaven. Right.

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Can I get an amen? And you're

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talking about me. I know you're,

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you might be, but I'm not.

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Okay. Jill said an especially

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loud amen up here. I don't

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know if you heard it. Amen.

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Like that kind of thing. But

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no, really, we aren't going

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to be perfect down here. Okay.

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And we just aren't. But

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you know, this word

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perfection, and I'm not going

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to put it up there, but this

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Greek word for perfection is

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a tele of taste. Aren't you

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glad I shared it? To lay out

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taste. But it's, it's more

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about, it's more about like

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keeping a perspective of

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maturity. In other words, even

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the word tele in the beginning

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of it has to do with a

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telescope, you know, and like

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when you're looking at

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something through a

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telescope, you could suddenly

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see, see it in a way you

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haven't been able to see it

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before. Because it's a

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telescope. Tele means

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bringing you to an end or an

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object. And so we know that

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when we study the Lord, keep

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our eyes fixed on Jesus

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Christ, the author and

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finisher of our faith,

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right? We become more like

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him, right? The more you

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study his word and study

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his character and nature and

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the way he is operated

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throughout the ages with

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his people, Israel, and with

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his believers, the more you

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grasp all that, the more

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you become like him. James

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talks about that. When you

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look in the mirror, don't

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look at yourself. Look at

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him. And when you step

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away from the mirror, you

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will look more like him and

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you will be blessed in all

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you do. So we keep our

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eyes fixed on him. That's

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the idea. And the more

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that happens, the more you

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become perfected. I love

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in Colossians it says, and

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beyond all things put on

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love, which is the bond of

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perfection. You know, so

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we're not going to be

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perfect, but the more you

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pursue him, the more

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perfect you are becoming.

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And perfection really

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resonates maturity,

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spiritual and moral

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maturity. Okay. And I know

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like, uh, in many ways, I

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still think, I'm so immature

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in some ways, you know, and

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Joe can attest to that. And

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but sometimes when I look

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back and I'm realized, but

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like, I can't believe I

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did that 10 years ago, or

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five years ago, or even

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yesterday. Okay. Like, I

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can't believe like, that

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was me because we are

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being perfected because

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Christ is perfect. And

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we're becoming more like

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the prince of perfection,

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right? We become more

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like him. And then he's

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going to give us things

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that are considered basics

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of Christianity. And when

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I'm reading them, sometimes

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I'm thinking it's pretty

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amazing because some of

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these things aren't basic

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in Christianity, what we're

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about to read, they really

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aren't. They're like, Oh,

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we never do that. Or I

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sometimes do that, or I've

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never even seen that done.

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Right? But these are

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basics. Like, the word is

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telling us, let's move

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past this stuff. Because

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this is basic. Don't stop

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doing it. But keep it in

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your quiver and move on

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and do even more. Right?

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So he's saying like, move

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beyond this towards

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perfection, because the

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things we're about to read

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are just the basics, the

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elements, you know, the

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elements of the basic

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breakdown of Christianity.

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These are things that you

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just do every day and in

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and out. So let's take a

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look at them. The first

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thing he says is

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repentance from dead

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works, if we could put

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that slide up towards faith

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in God. Okay. Faith

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towards God. So the first

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thing is repentance. And

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the word metanoia is

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really the word met means

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to with or to go with. In

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fact, meta, you know, where

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you get the Facebook is

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meta. And all these words

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of branding, like goes

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way beyond just a word.

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They've really researched

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them like Nike means

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victory in Greek and they

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love Greek words. Yeah.

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But so we see this, this

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is like this idea of

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repentance, right? And

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what it really means is

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changing our mind, right?

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And you've heard this

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before, I'm sure, but what

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are dead works? Dead

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works are done not in the

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spirit of God, you know,

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so the dead works are done

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what before you're a

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believer. You know, I

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remember sharing, I was at

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a, I was at a Bible

21:11

study and I had just

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gotten saved. And they

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were talking and they said

21:16

the question was, give an

21:18

example of when you did

21:19

something unusually nice to

21:21

someone and you knew that

21:24

it was just not something

21:27

you would normally do. And

21:28

I said, Oh, I have one.

21:29

And I shared about how when

21:30

I saw this old lady

21:33

walking, literally walking

21:34

across the street, it's

21:36

like a typical, but I

21:37

did, I saw her walk across

21:38

the sea and I said, where

21:39

are you going? You want

21:39

to, so I gave her a lift

21:41

to this bus stop and it's

21:43

like, I went out of my

21:44

way and somebody said,

21:46

ah, that's great. And I

21:46

said, Oh, well, okay,

21:48

that's great. And when did

21:49

that happen? He goes, Oh,

21:49

that was a while ago.

21:51

Like, Oh, what were you?

21:53

Were you a believer then?

21:54

I said, well, no, well,

21:56

it's not really what

21:57

we're talking about, you

21:58

know, because, because

21:59

that was, believe it or

22:00

not, kind of a dead

22:01

work because it was not

22:02

done in the spirit of

22:04

God, like everything we

22:05

do before coming to

22:06

Christ, really, because

22:08

we're still spiritually

22:09

dead as a dead work,

22:10

just like, you know,

22:12

dead works also have to

22:14

do with, remember he's

22:16

writing primarily to the

22:17

Jews who are now born

22:18

again. And he's saying,

22:20

you know, all those

22:20

dead works of the

22:21

sacrifices and all those

22:23

things, they were a

22:24

picture of Christ, but

22:25

they didn't produce

22:26

righteousness in you.

22:28

They were dead works.

22:29

Everything you did up

22:30

to this point was

22:31

pointing at Christ, but

22:32

it didn't make you

22:33

righteous. Only Christ

22:35

can do that. Right. And

22:37

so that's the idea. So

22:38

repentance is turning from

22:41

our old life and turning

22:44

towards faith in God.

22:46

It's having a change of

22:48

mind. And all of you

22:50

hopefully had gone

22:51

through that when you

22:52

accepted Christ, you

22:54

repented. You said, that

22:55

is not me anymore. I

22:58

have a change of mind.

23:01

Right. A total change of

23:03

mindset. And that is no

23:05

longer who I am any

23:06

longer. You know, and

23:08

the important thing,

23:10

though, is repentance. We

23:12

turn to God and we see

23:13

his goodness. And that's

23:14

really what drives us even

23:16

further into his arms.

23:18

We were singing a song

23:19

about surrounded by the

23:20

arms of God. You know,

23:22

that's the idea is like

23:23

when you turn from your

23:24

dead works, your old

23:26

life and you realize how

23:27

wretched that was and

23:29

you turn to God and you

23:30

say, wow, this is

23:32

amazing. Everything.

23:34

He's so good. He's

23:35

always good. You are

23:37

good. He's always good

23:39

to us, isn't he? You

23:41

know, he just does

23:42

everything good for us.

23:44

He's he's perfect.

23:46

And that's what we're

23:46

doing. That's the idea of

23:47

repentance. And then the

23:49

next thing he shares

23:52

about repentance. And you

23:53

know, before we get in

23:54

that, well, that's right.

23:55

Let's move on. So the

23:57

next thing is the

23:58

doctrine of baptisms.

24:02

Now, baptisms, OK,

24:04

are, you know, for

24:06

normal for us. Right.

24:08

As born again,

24:09

believers, when you

24:10

accept Christ as your

24:12

Lord and Savior and

24:13

you receive Him, you

24:16

could be baptized on the

24:17

spot like we saw with

24:18

the Ethiopian eunuch.

24:19

Right. You could be

24:20

baptized right then and

24:21

there. And that's what

24:23

happened a lot of times

24:23

with the jailer.

24:25

You know, they just say,

24:26

yeah, what do I got to

24:27

do? Accept Christ and

24:29

let's be baptized. And

24:30

it was literal baptism in

24:32

water. Right. Well, over

24:34

the years, it was kind

24:36

of minimalized down to

24:37

trickling some water on a

24:39

baby's head who has no

24:40

idea what they're even

24:42

going through. Now, I

24:43

don't want to be a that's

24:44

not an offense.

24:45

OK, but that's not the

24:47

picture of baptism in the

24:49

Bible. It's someone who

24:50

understands I just died

24:54

and now I'm alive.

24:55

Right. That's baptism.

24:57

Right. And you get

24:58

engulfed in the water.

25:00

Now, I see baptism, baby

25:01

baptism if they treat

25:03

it like a dedication and

25:05

we dedicate children, you

25:06

know, because it's like I

25:08

am going to raise them up

25:08

to know the Lord.

25:09

They're not getting saved

25:10

right now by this

25:11

trickling of water, but

25:13

they're being in a sense

25:14

Christened to know that

25:17

they are in a family who

25:19

are going to raise this

25:21

child to know the Lord.

25:23

So if it's treated as a

25:24

dedication, God bless them.

25:26

But if they think

25:27

somehow this baptism is

25:28

saving them or doing

25:30

something else, you know,

25:32

or casting the belief,

25:34

the faith of the parents

25:35

onto the child, none of

25:37

that happens.

25:38

Someone has to receive

25:39

Christ and then be

25:41

baptized. That's why the

25:42

great commission is go

25:43

and make disciples and

25:44

baptizing them in the name

25:46

of the Father, Son, the

25:47

Holy Spirit. Right.

25:48

But then there's even

25:49

another baptism, right, of

25:51

the Holy Spirit.

25:54

And John the Baptist

25:56

even shared that when he

25:57

says, you know, right

25:58

now I'm baptizing you

25:59

in this Jordan River.

26:01

OK, I don't know that

26:02

you're getting cleaner

26:03

when you come out of it,

26:04

but you're you're

26:05

getting baptized, symbolically

26:06

washing away your

26:08

sins. But there is one

26:09

coming after this.

26:11

We have this slide up

26:12

that speaks into this

26:14

and said, I indeed

26:15

baptize you with water

26:17

unto repentance.

26:18

But he who is coming

26:19

after me is mightier

26:21

than I who sandals

26:23

I am not worthy to carry.

26:25

He will baptize you

26:26

with the Holy Spirit and fire.

26:30

So these are baptisms.

26:32

And yet when you speak

26:33

to some people, I don't

26:34

know about that baptism.

26:35

I I don't know if I've

26:36

ever been baptized.

26:38

In the Holy Spirit.

26:40

And if that's you,

26:41

come on up after the service.

26:42

We're not going to do it

26:43

right here right now.

26:44

But if that's you,

26:45

if you want to know

26:46

more about this,

26:47

because I know

26:48

when I was baptized

26:49

in the Holy Spirit

26:51

and it was in Tyler State Park

26:53

while I was jogging along

26:55

and I finally totally surrendered

26:58

and I was yelling at God

26:59

saying, I thought you saved me.

27:02

Why do I feel like

27:02

I'm trying to save myself?

27:05

And it was at that time

27:06

suddenly the Lord

27:07

just came upon me

27:09

and I was just overwhelmed

27:11

and I had to run into the woods

27:13

and just ball my eyes out.

27:15

I probably shared

27:15

that story before with you.

27:17

But it was from then on

27:18

I was never the same.

27:19

And I knew that.

27:20

But, you know, there's baptisms.

27:22

You know, the Lord baptizes

27:23

us sometimes to do great things

27:25

on his behalf.

27:26

He even did that with

27:27

the patriarchs of faith

27:28

in the Old Testament.

27:30

And he still does that to us today.

27:32

So there's this baptism

27:34

of the Holy Spirit.

27:36

Now, when you get saved,

27:38

you are sealed by the Holy Spirit.

27:40

A deposit of the Holy Spirit

27:42

has been placed into your soul

27:44

and you are now sealed,

27:45

OK, to the day of your redemption.

27:48

But there's also baptisms

27:50

upon you of the Holy Spirit

27:52

to equip you to do the things

27:54

that only Christ can do

27:56

through you.

27:57

And that's these baptisms.

27:59

I just want to share

28:00

a couple of examples of this baptism.

28:05

First of all,

28:08

when the apostles, OK,

28:11

were going about and they were

28:15

laying hands on people

28:18

and baptizing them.

28:19

Well, let's move on.

28:20

Let's get to the next one.

28:21

We're going to incorporate

28:22

that with the next.

28:23

So the next thing he says

28:24

is, you know, after baptisms,

28:27

another principle

28:29

is the laying on of hands.

28:32

Now, if you're new here

28:33

and have never experienced that,

28:35

they're a touchy-feely group here.

28:37

What's that all about?

28:38

OK, if you're not used to that,

28:40

I feel for you because I wasn't either.

28:43

OK, when I started going to church

28:45

and people were saying,

28:45

here, let me touch you.

28:47

You know, it's like,

28:48

you know, it's kind of gives me

28:49

the cringes, you know,

28:51

like people just,

28:51

I don't even know you

28:52

and you're touching me.

28:53

You know, get your hand off me.

28:55

It's hot and moist.

28:56

You know, but anyway.

28:58

But no, like we're not

29:00

we're and if you're not used to that,

29:02

you come in and say,

29:03

well, why are they laying hands

29:04

and touching?

29:05

Well, it's very biblical.

29:07

OK, it's very biblical.

29:09

OK, in fact, lift up holy hands

29:11

everywhere we're told to do.

29:12

Right. Because we are we have

29:14

we are equipped with an anointing

29:17

and we're told to lay hands

29:19

on people for a variety of reasons.

29:22

OK, and I'm going to share

29:24

just some of them as we go along.

29:27

And the first is,

29:29

do you remember when Philip

29:31

went to Samaritan was after

29:34

they're in?

29:35

Well, I want to get all the deals.

29:36

But anyway,

29:37

Philip goes to Samaria

29:38

and he's preaching to the Samaritans

29:40

and they're all getting saved.

29:41

And it's like, whoa, what's going on?

29:42

You know, this is amazing.

29:44

They're Samaritans

29:44

and they're coming to Christ.

29:46

We didn't know that this was,

29:47

you know, possible.

29:49

And they're surprised

29:50

even if they saw it,

29:51

the woman at the well with Jesus,

29:53

but they're still like shocked, you know.

29:55

And so all of a sudden

29:56

Peter and John went down

29:57

and before they knew it,

29:58

they were dispensing the Holy Spirit,

30:01

laying hands on people

30:02

who were receiving the Holy Spirit.

30:05

And we see this in

30:07

in Acts chapter eight, verse 17.

30:11

They laid hands on them

30:12

and they received the Holy Spirit.

30:15

So this was like a purpose

30:17

of laying hands and still is

30:19

is to receiving the

30:23

impartation of the Holy Spirit.

30:26

Another reason to lay hands

30:28

is for healing.

30:30

And we lay hands

30:30

and Jesus said to do this.

30:32

And these are the signs

30:33

that will follow those who believe

30:34

they will lay hands on the sick

30:37

and they will recover.

30:39

We do that constantly.

30:40

If you ever watch people come forward

30:43

and people are laying hands on them

30:45

and praying sometimes

30:46

even putting oil on them,

30:47

because that's all biblical,

30:49

because we believe that this

30:50

that the Lord will heal them.

30:53

Well, what if he doesn't?

30:55

Well, what if he doesn't?

30:57

And that's between God and God.

31:00

OK, he is greater than any other

31:02

spirit or force

31:04

that can prevent someone

31:05

from being healed.

31:07

So I'm not going to try to discern

31:09

why he's healing and why he's not.

31:12

You know, I just spoke

31:15

about

31:17

what last week to Steve Simpson.

31:21

And, you know,

31:22

you know, about my long issue

31:23

that I've been having for a while

31:25

and going in and out of

31:27

prednisone, I think I can't

31:29

just take it every day.

31:30

And I know you can't.

31:31

Right. So finally, you know,

31:33

I reached out to my buddy Steve

31:36

because he had been on

31:37

prednisone a ton.

31:38

I hope he didn't mind me sharing

31:40

his humda or whatever.

31:42

Anyway, but but he would share

31:45

because so he had major issues.

31:49

Right. And with sinus

31:51

infection since he was a child,

31:53

a little kid.

31:54

And the things they would have to

31:56

do to release this,

31:57

I don't even want to discuss

31:58

because it's pretty

32:00

nasty.

32:01

So and so he had always

32:03

been on this and not to mention

32:04

also on top of that,

32:06

he had asbestos

32:08

issues because of where he worked,

32:10

you know.

32:11

And so anyway,

32:13

and I remember him sharing this

32:14

and, you know, and just you just

32:16

ever sense that this is

32:17

a time that God's

32:19

going to do something.

32:20

I remember just like tearing up

32:22

and just feeling really connected.

32:24

And I said, you know, let's pray.

32:25

And and I laid hands

32:27

on I prayed for him.

32:29

And so anyway, this was about

32:33

12, 15 years ago.

32:35

Well, I called him because I knew

32:36

he had been on prednisone all the

32:38

time because of this issue.

32:41

And I said, all right, listen, so

32:44

how long were you on it?

32:46

Did you ever have any bad side

32:47

effects, all this stuff?

32:48

He used used.

32:49

Well, I haven't had any episodes

32:50

since you prayed for me.

32:52

No, I'm not kidding.

32:54

I mean, like, and that's not me.

32:57

And just like, it's so humbling.

32:59

He had shared that before,

33:00

but I didn't know if it was still

33:01

the case, but I share.

33:03

And I'm like, like, wow.

33:05

Right. Why doesn't he always do that?

33:08

Like, I just want to be bam, bam,

33:10

bam, bam, bam, bam.

33:11

You're healed.

33:11

You're I wish so much.

33:13

Wouldn't you love that?

33:15

Wouldn't you love if you could

33:16

just go into the hospitals

33:17

and clear the house?

33:18

All right, everybody go home.

33:20

Nurses, you're all fired.

33:21

Doctors, go heal somewhere else

33:23

because this is a house of healing.

33:26

I don't understand why these things.

33:28

I'm not going to try to pretend that I do,

33:31

but we're just told to keep on going.

33:34

Assuming what God wants to do is to heal.

33:38

And maybe he will someday.

33:40

Maybe he will today.

33:41

Maybe he will that very second.

33:43

But assume it.

33:44

I love when he healed,

33:45

when he said, go to the lepers, he says,

33:47

go and show yourselves to the high priest.

33:49

And they all left.

33:51

Assuming, you know, that they've been healed,

33:53

I guess, you know, he's telling me

33:55

it's going to be pretty embarrassing

33:56

if I get there and they tell me

33:57

to get out, you're unclean.

33:58

But anyway, they're going all of a sudden.

34:00

Whoa, I haven't seen skin

34:02

like this in years, right?

34:05

Like, wow, they left just assuming.

34:07

And then the one ran back

34:08

to Samaritan to Jesus

34:10

and just humbled himself.

34:11

And he received the full package

34:14

being made whole in salvation.

34:17

Right. And, you know,

34:17

maybe we just need to assume

34:19

that we've been healed

34:20

and continue on serving God.

34:23

And in the midst of serving,

34:25

we will be healed.

34:27

Right. You know, so I can't discern that.

34:30

And I don't want to get trapped into

34:33

pessimism because the last

34:35

10 people I prayed for weren't healed.

34:37

That's up to God.

34:39

Right. I can't figure him out.

34:41

You know, I can figure some things out.

34:43

But he, you know, I have the mind of Christ,

34:45

but I don't know everything

34:46

he's saying and doing.

34:47

And if he wants to heal, he can heal.

34:49

And so this is the idea

34:50

of just laying hands and assuming.

34:53

Right now.

34:55

And then I, as he was told

34:56

to go to Saul and lay hands on him

34:58

for healing and to receive

35:00

the Holy Spirit, you remember that?

35:02

So we're called to lay hands

35:03

for a lot of reasons.

35:05

I love when Paul wrote to Timothy

35:07

and he said, don't neglect

35:09

the gift that was given you

35:11

when I laid hands on you.

35:14

So we see this idea

35:15

of the gift of the spirit

35:17

are also imparted

35:20

through the laying on of hands.

35:23

Now, I know I can get out

35:24

of the practice of this.

35:26

I can. I'm being honest with you

35:28

because I get more and more

35:30

into other areas of Christianity

35:32

and I could suddenly forget.

35:33

Wait, you got to be laying hands

35:35

and like, you know, imparting things,

35:37

imparting the Holy Spirit,

35:39

imparting what God wants to impart

35:41

because that's what

35:42

the Lord is calling us to do.

35:44

That's a basic thing.

35:45

That's an elemental teacher

35:47

teaching in Christianity.

35:49

And yet how often are we

35:50

actually moving in it?

35:52

Right. And what we're learning

35:54

is if you're not moving in it,

35:56

you're moving away from it.

35:58

Right. And so this is the idea.

36:00

Now, a little bit more

36:01

about this laying on of hands.

36:03

There's something even represented

36:05

in the Old Testament

36:06

because, you know, when the high priest, OK.

36:11

He would cast the sins of the people

36:15

upon the innocent sacrifice.

36:18

Do you remember that?

36:20

OK, so this innocent animal did nothing.

36:24

He was just chewing the

36:25

cut a minute ago.

36:27

OK, and now guess what?

36:28

He's about to be slaughtered.

36:30

Right. And the sins

36:31

of the sacrifice are being laid.

36:36

I mean, I'm sorry, the sins

36:37

of the people are being laid

36:38

on the sacrifice.

36:40

OK, does that make sense?

36:42

And now that animal was killed

36:43

and the blood that flows out

36:46

is to atone for the sins

36:49

of the people, the nation Israel.

36:52

Well, we are called royal priesthood.

36:55

OK, we are the priests

36:57

on the earth today

36:58

on behalf of Christ, right?

37:00

And we are the royal priesthood.

37:02

Right. And so now we lay hands

37:06

on the sinner.

37:09

With the grace of the sacrifice,

37:11

Jesus Christ,

37:12

that's why we lay hands.

37:14

In fact, I have a little picture

37:14

of just laying hands.

37:16

And that's why we do it,

37:18

because now the sacrifice

37:21

was already paid for in Jesus Christ.

37:24

Now we're anointing people

37:26

and laying hands on them

37:27

with the grace of the sacrifice.

37:30

The sinlessness of the sacrifice

37:32

is now being laid upon

37:35

someone who is a sinner.

37:37

Now, I do not call myself

37:39

a sinner any longer

37:41

because I'm not identified

37:42

by my sins, but I will sin.

37:45

I'll never be sinless

37:46

this side of heaven.

37:47

I just would attest to that, right?

37:50

But I have the sinless sacrifices

37:53

grace that was laid upon me.

37:56

And so do you.

37:58

And so this is why we lay hands.

38:01

But you know, we are also warned.

38:04

OK, because Paul also warned Timothy.

38:08

Don't be so hasty to lay hands

38:10

on people because in a sense

38:13

you are sharing in their sins

38:14

because if you don't know their story,

38:16

like if someone just says, you know,

38:18

I have this I have this issue, OK,

38:24

and I need prayer for it

38:26

and you don't know any of this story,

38:28

you can pray for them and so forth.

38:30

But you have to realize that they're

38:32

whatever they're involved in

38:34

may be perpetuating those sins.

38:37

So just be careful.

38:38

It also has to do with

38:39

laying hands on people

38:40

for the recruitment

38:42

or the assignment of offices

38:44

in the church.

38:45

So those are some of the reasons

38:46

that we lay hands

38:47

and they're all considered

38:48

basic elemental things in Christianity.

38:52

All right, we're almost done.

38:54

The next thing is

38:55

the resurrection of the dead.

38:58

OK, this is elemental, you know,

39:01

that that everyone is going to die.

39:04

OK, and we are all going to rise again.

39:08

And even the people of the Old Testament,

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well, the Sadducees, they didn't believe it,

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but the Pharisees did.

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And they they understood

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there is going to be a resurrection.

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And it was spoken of in Isaiah.

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It was spoken of in in Daniel

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that we will rise again.

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OK, because when we

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everyone rises from the dead,

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they will be then be judged.

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OK, and we will be judged

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according to our salvation

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and the works we did in the spirit.

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But those who do not come to Christ

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will be judged in their dead works.

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And unfortunately, it's not going to be

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a joy filled destiny for them.

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And that's the truth.

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And that's a basic.

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But you know how many

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how many churches are not preaching that?

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Because it's uncomfortable.

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It's uncomfortable.

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You know, in fact,

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a lot of Christianity is

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moving towards universalism.

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Do you know what I mean by that?

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In other words,

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everyone is somehow saved

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through the grace of God.

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Everyone, even people that never believe.

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Well, that's not biblical at all.

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It's it's it's it's

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that's false teaching, you know,

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but people don't want to talk about hell

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as a real place, a real destiny.

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And then the final thing

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is eternal judgment.

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Everyone will be judged someday.

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As the worship team comes forward

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and we close out.

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I just want to say like if you

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if you have never just fallen.

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To the mercies of Jesus Christ,

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if you've never surrendered

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your life to Jesus.

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I just want to

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implore you to do that today.

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Like if you sense the spirit

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is working on your heart.

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Right now, he's calling you,

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he's he's drawing you in.

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And you've heard his voice before,

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you've probably heard his call before.

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And yet something happens,

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you just start to resist it.

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You start to say, well,

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I'm not ready yet.

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I have a few things

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I have to take care of,

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like the rich young ruler, like

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get rid of all the things

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that are keeping you bound.

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And he walked away sorrowful.

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And Jesus loved him.

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He was sad to see him.

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No, and turn away

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because he wanted him to be saved, too.

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If that's you, if you know

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the Lord is calling you today,

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don't walk out of here right now

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with surrendering,

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without surrendering to the Lord.

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It's time.

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In fact, we read weeks ago.

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Today, if you hear his voice,

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do not harden your heart.

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Don't rebel any longer.

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Say yes, Lord.

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Today, I want to be saved.

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I want to be delivered from myself.

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This is the basics of Christianity.

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If no one ever told you that before,

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it's time.

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It's time to just say,

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I need salvation.

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My life is running out.

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I don't have forever.

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This life is but a mist,

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regardless of how old you are,

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the time will fly.

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It's time to just come to Jesus.

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It's time to give your life to Jesus.

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And if that's you,

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I'm not going to ask you to raise your hand,

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but just in the quietness of your heart

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with all of our heads bowed and eyes closed,

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you could just pray something like this.

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Father God, I know I'm a sinner.

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And I cannot save myself.

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I want to be saved.

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I want a new life.

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I want a new identity.

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I want to restart.

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I need forgiveness.

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Today, I give you my life.

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I surrender it to you.

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Because you died on the cross for my sins.

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You became my sin on the cross.

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And today, I want to receive that gift

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that you did through your sacrifice

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on the cross.

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Today, I receive that from you.

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And Lord, I ask you to forgive me

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of all my sins, past, present and future.

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And I ask you to fill me with your Holy Spirit.

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In Jesus' name, amen.

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If you did that, the word says that you are born again.

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That means you have a new life,

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regardless of how you feel.

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Sometimes the feelings come later.

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For me, they did.

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For me, they took like a year later

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to finally be baptized in the Holy Spirit.

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You know, this is a short life that we're living here.

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We want to live it to the fullest.

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We want to run that race without regret,

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without stumbling.

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We just want to live it for Him.

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So we need to be able to exercise our senses

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to know good and evil

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and to overcome evil with good, with love.

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Amen, amen.

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Let's all stand up and give the Lord a round of applause.

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Hallelujah.

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Father God, we thank you

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that you are mighty and powerful, Lord.

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And you've called us to be your priests, Lord God.

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We thank you for that.

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And you know what?

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I'm gonna ask something unusual right now.

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Let me finish praying first.

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Father God, we thank you that you've chosen us

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for such a time as this

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to do mighty things in the power of the Holy Spirit.

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We thank you in Jesus' name, amen.

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Thanks for joining us at Lansdale Life Church

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as we praise God and discuss His word.

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Be blessed and have a great day.