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Breaking Tradition For Transformation
Acts 15:1-35

Pastor Chris Bonner

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Welcome to the Lansdale Life Church podcast.

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If you're seeking a closer relationship with Jesus Christ, this podcast is for you.

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Thank you for joining us today.

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So, Father God, thank you, Lord.

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Thank you for this body of believers.

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Such an honor and privilege to journey life with them, Lord.

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And Lord, we just humbly come to you because we need some fresh manna, Lord.

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We need some fresh meat, Lord God.

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We want to be fed by you, by your word, by your Holy Spirit.

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And only you can do that.

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So Lord, we ask you to feed us this morning so that we can clearly perceive what we're

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meant to receive from this and be transformed.

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So we thank you in Jesus' name.

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Amen.

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So, you know, titles are always difficult to find, you know, because there's so many

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things you can cover.

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And I get that phone, I get that text from Lara around Thursday morning.

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Do you have a title yet?

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And I'm like, ah, you know, because I know the title is going to change five times

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before Sunday morning, but I just have to go with something.

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So that's what I came up with.

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Breaking tradition for transformation.

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And I added a little tagline, which isn't anywhere to be found except on your

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WhatsApp that I sent out, but navigating change.

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You know, because when you got first got saved, do you remember that?

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Some of you are like, I don't know what you're talking about.

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Well, maybe today the Lord is going to save you.

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Amen.

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But when you first got saved, you realize that you're different.

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It might've taken a little while, you know, like for me, it took a season

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of time to really believe I was new.

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It took me at least a year.

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Jill says two.

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Jill says I'm still working on it, but anyway, but no, it takes some time

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to really realize like, I'm new.

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Like the word says I'm a new creation, but in a world that I've known my whole

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life, regardless of what age you were when you got saved, but you're new.

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And sometimes you're realizing like things seem different, but I'm

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still the same, aren't I?

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And you realize the Lord actually gradually starts to change you and show

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you where you need to change, you know, whether it's people you spend a lot

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of time with, you think, well, you know, these people aren't necessarily

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healthy for me to be around.

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You know, there was a season when I got saved, I basically disconnected

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from anyone I really knew because of all the memories and the things

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that drug me back into, you know, and so a lot of times the Lord

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just shows us that we need to change the people we surround ourselves

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with or places, the places you go, where you spend your time, you

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know, this isn't for me any longer because I'm new, you know, it

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takes a while to realize that I'm really new.

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I'm a new creation.

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I'm not the same.

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And then perhaps the things that you do, you know, you realize that,

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you know, I just can't do those things anymore because there's something

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going on inside me that there's like this tug of war saying, nah, that's

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not you anymore, used to be you, but it's not you anymore.

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And a lot of times those things take a timeframe to figure out.

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It's almost like your wilderness, you know, heading into the

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promised land, you know, it's like, you know, it's just like you're

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struggling to sort this whole thing out.

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And really, that's what the Lord is doing.

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He's transforming us and there's things we need to let go and there's

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things we need to take on to be transformed, right?

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And sometimes those things are easy to let go of.

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Sometimes they're more difficult.

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I remember when I first got saved, you know, I was in the church

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thriving and suddenly my pastor said, well, you know, you need to get baptized.

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I'm like, I shouldn't need to do anything.

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I'm saved.

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Like, like, what is this now?

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All right.

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I knew there was something coming.

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I thought I was good.

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Now I'm not good because I got to get baptized.

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Like, like, why?

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Like, what is that for if I'm saved?

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Right.

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But they explain to me, because it's another step of obedience, because if

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you continue to surrender things and obey, you realize that life becomes

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better because you're surrendering.

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You know, you do well.

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We're going to hear that term a couple of times.

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You do well in your walk with Jesus.

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When you realize you step in obedience.

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Then they talked about tithing.

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I really hated that.

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Like, wait, whoa, whoa, 10% of my, that's my income.

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It's mine.

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It's what does God need money suddenly?

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You know, I need to give my money to the church.

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Like that seems, you know, that seems, you know, why, why does he need money?

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You know, and I realize there's people around, there's lights, there's

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buildings, there's things, but still I felt like, you know, why is that

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necessary, but I realize that when you give, you actually are blessed so much.

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He gives a hundredfold.

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Whatever you give away in rewards, both here in this world and beyond, you

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receive back.

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So I realize giving is nothing now because when you give, you realize there's

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so much God is going to bless you for.

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Let it go.

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It's his anyway, right?

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Right from the beginning.

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It's his, right?

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And so tithing, that obedience.

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So there's things suddenly that are uncomfortable at first, but you

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realize, well, yeah, if I'm going to, if I'm going to do well and

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advance in my walk in Christ, these things, I have to just surrender.

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Right.

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And there's new things I need to do.

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Some of you might find difficulty, uh, maybe follow shipping or even participating

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in what God's doing, you know, helping out and different things like that.

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You know, for me, it was easy because I was excited to be there and to do

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things, but for you, maybe it's that like, why do I have to do anything?

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I shouldn't need to go there.

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I shouldn't need to go to church every Sunday, every Sunday, you

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know, and what, now they have this Wednesday night thing.

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I have to go to that too.

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Well, you don't have to do anything.

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That's the thing with God.

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You don't have to do anything, but if you do, you will do well.

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And so, so now we're going to look at acts chapter 15 and we're going to see

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kind of a pivotal time in church history because Gentiles are getting saved and

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they have a lot of habits and they have a lot of traditions and they have a lot

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of weird things that aren't, don't compliment Christianity.

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Okay.

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They don't, they aren't cohesive with the walk in Christ.

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And then you also have on the other side, the Jews who have a lot of traditions,

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laws, and, and things that they just think, well, we got to keep doing them.

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I mean, God gave us these instructions.

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We have to keep doing them.

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So now there's a collision.

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You got one side that's like, I like all these weird things.

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And, and I don't know anything about this Yahweh God that has all these

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rules and regulations.

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And then you have the other side saying, no, you need to do this.

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And suddenly it's like, boom, you know, there's a collision.

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And we're going to read how the early church resolved it because they

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realize that, you know, there is a collision.

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There's a whole different culture, but what is God's culture?

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Isn't that what we want in the end?

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Doesn't matter what man's culture is.

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It matters what God's culture is.

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That's what we want for our lives.

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You know, and so anyway, we're going to dive in now.

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And there are 35 verses.

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You're thinking of what, but we're only going to stop a couple of times, but it

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reads so well, just like that story that we need to keep this section all together.

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So you're ready?

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Acts chapter 15 verse one.

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And then we're going to stop abruptly right in the beginning.

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But so verse one, and certain men came down from Judea and taught the brethren

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that unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.

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Now imagine this, you're this Gentile.

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You come to Christ and you're like this thriving, right?

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You're like, wow, yeah, this is awesome.

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You know, I'm forgiven.

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And you can almost feel, do you remember when your sins were forgiven?

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Like I know sometimes we start to own our sins again and we don't feel forgiven.

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But do you remember when you really said, no, your sins are forgiven.

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You and that burden was just lifted.

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Well, they're feeling like this.

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They're like, man, I just love people even so much more than I ever did.

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This is wonderful.

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And then some suddenly these guys from some other place that you don't even

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know show up, they come into your town, into your synagogue or church, and they

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start saying, yeah, dude, really sorry, Ben, you know, you really aren't saved

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yet. OK, there's some more steps to the process.

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And you're like, that's that's troubling, isn't it?

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It's like, well, wait a minute.

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If this guy's right, then I'm really been deceived.

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And if he's wrong, get this guy.

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Yeah, let's let's get this guy out of here.

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Right. So there's some trouble.

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OK, because, you know, because there's a conflict here.

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And so and now they're telling them that you need to be circumcised.

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OK, now we're not getting into graphic detail there, but you're

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an older guy or a guy of whatever age, anything other than eight days old or

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younger. And you're like, yeah, now we need to commit a surgical procedure

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on you to cut off your foreskin.

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Like, oh, wait, whoa, whoa, wait, like what?

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I mean, I was bent out of shape about baptism and then tithing.

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Imagine saying that you got to get sliced.

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And I'm like, to be saved?

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Like, I don't remember any of this being in the textbook.

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Right. I mean, it's weird, right?

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So they were very troubled about this and they were not happy.

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So verse two, therefore, when Paul and Barnabas had no small

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dissension and dispute with these guys, they determined that Paul

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and Barnabas and certain others of them should go up to Jerusalem

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to the apostles and elders about this question.

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And so being sent on their way by the church, they pass through

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Phoenicia, Samaria, describing the conversion of the Gentiles

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and they cause great joy to all the brethren.

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And verse four, and when they had come to Jerusalem, they were

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received by the church and the apostles and the elders, and

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they reported all things that God had done with them.

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But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up

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saying it is necessary to circumcise them and to command them

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to keep the law of Moses.

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Now, that's important to me.

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When I read Pharisees who believed, you know, it made me

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realize that like people who are very religious that we would

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consider, you know, can also be saved, but they're just kind of

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stuck in this religious, traditional process that they

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think is also necessary.

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And so they can't differentiate.

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No, you still have to do all these things, but in their heart,

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they know Jesus Christ.

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I can't figure it out.

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I can't figure out why people would stay in a system of all

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these rules and regulations and so forth.

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And yet you're really already free.

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But I think there's an element of, you know, sometimes we

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want to do something physical to prove something on the inside

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and they just feel this is necessary.

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You know, my mom was like that.

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My mom raised us in religion and she was religious and then she

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got saved.

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So she started coming to our church on Sundays, but first she

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went to her other church just to make sure, you know, because

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by then it's just ingrained in you.

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It's a familial thing.

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You've been raised in it.

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You have an obligation.

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I don't know to what, but you have an obligation.

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And she was so irritated at all the things that had happened

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in religion that she disagreed with, but she was still tied,

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tethered to that system.

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I mean, maybe you've been there, you know, and I don't

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want to bash the system and so forth.

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It was because of the system.

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In a sense, I was introduced to Jesus so I could honor religion

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in that way, because at least it's a system to point

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you to salvation, but it's not salvation.

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And that's where people still get confused.

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So my mom was that religious and then finally she was saved,

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but she still stayed in it.

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You know, so I can't figure it out, but there's people

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that we can look at and say, you know, they're not even

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saved because they still do all these things.

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Well, maybe they are.

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They just are this.

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They haven't broken out of that tradition, you know, of

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what they're used to.

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So let's read on verse six.

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Now, the apostles and the elders came together to consider

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this matter, and when there had been much dispute, Peter rose

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up and said to them, men and brethren, you know that a good

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while ago, God chose among us that by my mouth, the Gentiles

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should hear the word of the gospel and believe.

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And so God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving

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them the Holy Spirit, just as he did to us and made no

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distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts

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by faith.

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Now, therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on

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the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor

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we were able to bear?

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But we believe that through the grace of the Lord

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Jesus Christ, we shall be saved in the same manner as

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they.

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So, of course, Peter is saying, remember the Cornelius

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thing?

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Do you remember the Cornelius thing?

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We talked about that a few weeks ago, but the Lord

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showed him the blanket, you know, kill Peter, kill,

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eat.

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Oh, no, I would never eat anything that's, you know,

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unclean.

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Don't call what God has cleansed uncommon or unclean.

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Right.

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And so he knew this was something.

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This was a sign.

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And then he went and he led these Romans to Christ and

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he went back and they said, did you really eat in the

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house of Gentiles?

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You see, wait a minute.

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They're like us now.

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They have the same Holy Spirit as us.

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So this was him saying, do you remember?

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Well, this is that.

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This is what's happening here.

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Listen, don't start putting burdens on them.

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Don't throw a yoke on their neck that they can't or

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shouldn't even be carrying.

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Why lay more responsibility on them?

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You know, Christ is the end of the law for those

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who believe he is the law.

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When you follow him, you already have the law.

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He's he's all in one Jesus Christ.

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Right.

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And so this is him reminding them about the

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Cornelius incident and verse 12 and then all the

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multitude kept silent and listen to Barnabas and

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Paul, declaring how many miracles and wonders God

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had worked through them among the Gentiles.

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And after they had become silent, James, who was

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now kind of like the church leader, the half

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brother of Jesus, James answered saying, men and

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brethren, listen to me.

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Simon has declared how God at the first visited

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the Gentiles to take out of them a people for

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his name.

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And with this, the words of the prophets agree,

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just as it is written, after this, I will return

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and I will rebuild the tabernacle of David, which

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has fallen down and rebuild its ruins.

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And I will set it up so that the rest of mankind

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may seek the Lord, even all the Gentiles who are

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called by the name, by my name, and says the Lord

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who does all these things.

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Verse 18, known to God from eternity for all his

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works, therefore, I judge that we should not

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trouble those from among the Gentiles who are

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turning to God, but that we write to them to

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abstain from the things polluted by idols, from

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sexual immorality, from things strangled and from

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blood.

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For Moses has had throughout many generations

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those who preach him in every city, being read

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in the synagogues every Sabbath.

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So here, James is saying they don't have to do all

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that, but they should do this.

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Okay, so there's something here.

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Okay, there's something that we're going to talk

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about in a couple of minutes that James is saying,

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no, this is necessary, not for salvation, but to

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do well, okay, to do well.

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So these are some things we need to consider.

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So I believe James is saying, now, wait a minute,

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this is, if you just go back saying you don't have

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to be circumcised, then they're going to just

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keep going with all the other things they are

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doing, which are not complimentary to a walk in

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Christ, which are still paganistic, and there's

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still an abomination to God.

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We have to deal with this.

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We have to address this, right?

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Even though they don't have to do that, they

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still should do this.

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And he's seeing that, you know, in all these

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cities, Moses is being taught, and there's going

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to be a conflict in every city because suddenly,

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wait, you're a Christian?

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What are you doing with that Yeti full of blood?

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Okay, what, you drinking blood?

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I'm just Yeti, whatever, you know, you know, or

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what's the Stanley cup?

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You got a 40 ounce Stanley cup of blood, you

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sicko, right?

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But I love this Stanley cup.

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But, but you know what I'm saying?

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Like, there's going to be a conflict.

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There's going to be completely continual

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friction and collision.

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So we should at least deal with this that

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they are doing that should not be done.

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Okay.

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So we're going to get back to that in a minute.

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And verse 22, and then it please the

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apostles and elders with the whole church to

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send chosen men of their own company to

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Antioch with Paul and Barnabas, namely

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Judas, who was also named Barnabas and

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Silas leading men from the brethren.

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And they wrote this letter by them, the

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apostles, the elders and the brethren to the

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brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch,

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Syria and Cilicia.

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Greetings, since we have heard that some who

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went out from us have troubled you with

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words, unsettling your souls, saying you

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must be circumcised and keep the law to

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whom we gave no such commandment.

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It seemed to us being assembled with one

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accord to send chosen men to you with our

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beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have

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risked their lives for the name of the

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Lord Jesus Christ.

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Verse 27, we have therefore sent Judas and

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Silas, who will also report the same

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things by word of mouth, also report the

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same things, I'm sorry, by word of

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mouth, verse 28, for it seemed good to the

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Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no

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greater burden than these necessary

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things, verse 29, that you abstain from

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things offered to idols, from blood, from

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things strangled and from sexual

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immorality, if you keep these, keep

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yourselves from these, you will do

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well, farewell, verse 30.

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So when they were sent off, they came to

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Antioch, and when they had gathered the

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multitude together, they delivered the

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letter, and when they had read it, they

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rejoiced over its encouragement.

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Now Judas and Silas themselves, being

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prophets, also exhorted and strengthened

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the brethren with many words, and after

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they had stayed there for a time, they

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were sent back with greetings from the

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brethren to the apostles.

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However, it seemed good to Silas to

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remain there, Paul and Barnabas also

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remain in Antioch, teaching and

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preaching the word of the Lord with

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many others also.

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So here Silas stays behind, we're going

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to read about him next week when he

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joins up with Paul.

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And so I thought that phrase was

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interesting, it seemed good to the

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Holy Spirit, you know, it seemed good.

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I don't know how your version reads, but

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we should always know that it seems good

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to him, you know what I mean?

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Like it shouldn't just seem right to us.

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You know, we pray quite often as a

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family, elders for this church, we just

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want his mind, like, Lord, you, does

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this seem right to you?

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What's your thoughts on this?

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We need his mind.

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We need the mind of Christ.

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We have it, but we need more of it.

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So anyway, so here they encouraged

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them. So before we get into those four

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things that they were supposed to

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abstain from, I think that James wants

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to bring unity here, doesn't he?

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He wants to bring, he wants to bring

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unity, but not at the expense of

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compromising truth.

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And I think that's the Spirit of God.

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James wrote about this in James 3, 17

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and 18, but the wisdom from above is

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first pure than peaceable, gentle, open

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to reason, full of mercy and good

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fruits, impartial and sincere.

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And a harvest of righteousness is

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sown in peace by those who make peace.

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So, you know, sometimes we think,

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well, no, it has to be this.

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This is what's right.

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And then another side can say, well,

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no, but this is right.

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But a lot of times if we just ask

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God to bring unity, he's able to

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parse out what's the most important

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thing. Like what's the priority here?

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We don't have to.

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We don't have to be right all the

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time. We need God to show us what's

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right. And so this is what's

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happening here, that they deliver

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this message. And I think it's

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interesting. And we don't know how

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the Pharisees responded to this,

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but we don't see any more uproar.

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It's great. It would be great to

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think that these believing

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Pharisees realize that, you know

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what, OK, I see where you're

24:05

coming from. Maybe we don't need

24:08

this anymore.

24:09

So let's talk briefly just about

24:13

circumcision, because this was

24:15

something significant to the

24:17

early the Israelites.

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Right. I mean, this was this

24:21

was actually a sign of God's

24:24

covenant with them.

24:25

And we read about this in

24:28

Genesis 17 verses 10 to 14.

24:32

And this was, of course, not

24:33

given to Moses. It was given to

24:34

Abraham right from the

24:35

beginning. This is my covenant,

24:37

which you shall keep between me

24:39

and you and your offspring after

24:41

you. Every male among you shall

24:44

be circumcised.

24:45

You shall be circumcised in the

24:47

flesh of your foreskins.

24:48

And it shall be a sign of the

24:51

covenant between me and you.

24:54

So it was a sign of a

24:57

covenant.

24:58

But, you know, it was always an

24:59

outward sign, wasn't it?

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It should have been an inward

25:03

sign. It should have been like,

25:05

no, I am oh, I am owned

25:08

by the Lord, the Yahweh, to

25:10

them. I belong to Him.

25:12

I'm a special people.

25:14

I'm a special person.

25:15

And I belong to Him.

25:17

This is an outward sign.

25:19

But the Lord always wanted to be

25:20

go beyond skin deep.

25:22

He wanted to go into the heart

25:25

and the soul.

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He wants the heart

25:28

circumcised.

25:28

And we read about this later

25:29

in the Old Testament, still

25:31

in Deuteronomy, we read, well,

25:37

let's read it up there.

25:38

Deuteronomy, the Lord says to

25:41

Israel, circumcised there for

25:43

the foreskin of your heart and

25:46

be no longer stubborn.

25:49

Later on, He says, and the

25:50

Lord your God will circumcise

25:52

your heart and the heart of

25:53

your offspring so that you

25:55

will love the Lord your God

25:57

with all your heart, with all

25:59

your soul and with all

26:02

and your soul that you may

26:03

live, heart, soul, mind and

26:05

strength.

26:06

So He wants them to have

26:08

a circumcised heart.

26:10

Now, that's not something that

26:11

somebody is going to go in

26:12

there and cut out.

26:13

It's your heart being

26:15

transformed.

26:16

So the outward circumcision

26:18

was always pointing to

26:19

something that would happen

26:21

later, a circumcised heart.

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Paul talks about this in

26:26

Romans chapter two, verse

26:28

twenty eight to twenty nine.

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For no one is a Jew who is

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merely one outwardly, nor is

26:34

circumcision outward and

26:36

physical, but a Jew is one

26:38

inwardly and circumcision is

26:40

a matter of the heart by the

26:42

spirit, not by the letter.

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His praise is not from man,

26:47

but from God.

26:49

So see, they were saying that

26:51

like this outward practice of

26:53

cutting skin away is unnecessary

26:55

now, because now the Lord

26:57

circumcises the heart so we

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can put that away.

27:01

That's OK to put away, you

27:04

know, and actually it was so

27:06

severe that they said if

27:07

anyone is not circumcised, they

27:09

need to be cut off from the

27:10

people.

27:12

OK, I'd rather have skin cut

27:13

away than me cut away.

27:15

OK, they should be cut off

27:17

from their own people.

27:18

So this was was significant.

27:21

So you can almost imagine being

27:24

like a religious Jew.

27:26

And this was always a symbol.

27:29

All these centuries and

27:31

centuries.

27:32

This was your your history.

27:34

And some of you are saying it's

27:35

not needed anymore.

27:37

How significant is this Jesus?

27:40

Well, you answer that.

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He's everything.

27:44

He is everything right.

27:47

If you don't have Jesus,

27:47

you have nothing.

27:49

You can, you know,

27:51

it's Jesus and nothing else.

27:54

Right.

27:54

So these things that they're

27:55

about to tell us to abstain

27:57

from weren't salvation either.

28:00

But they were saying, if you

28:01

want to follow Jesus well,

28:03

get rid of those things.

28:04

OK, so that they don't

28:06

cloud the way, get rid of

28:08

them. Right.

28:08

Just like that when Paul

28:09

talks about, you know,

28:10

cutting off the sin that

28:12

snares you down and and

28:13

drags you down.

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Just cut it off.

28:16

Right.

28:16

And so now we're going to

28:17

look at these things that

28:19

they were called to abstain

28:22

from.

28:25

And if you could put up

28:26

that next slide.

28:30

There we go.

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So things necessary to

28:33

abstain from if you wish

28:36

to do well.

28:37

Remember, he wrote at the

28:38

end of the letter, if you

28:39

abstain from these things,

28:40

you will do well.

28:41

I want to do well.

28:43

Right.

28:43

So I stopped drinking blood.

28:45

I told Jill, I'm not going

28:46

to do that anymore.

28:49

Thank God that was never

28:50

a thing for me.

28:52

OK, I don't even like rare

28:54

meat. Do you like rare

28:55

meat?

28:56

I had a friend that would

28:57

eat Pittsburgh rare.

28:59

Do you know what that is?

29:01

It's burnt on the outside

29:02

and it's it just it's

29:05

bloody on the inside.

29:07

That ain't me.

29:08

But I like medium.

29:09

Jill likes well done.

29:10

It's like all the flavor

29:11

is gone now medium well.

29:15

I'm kidding.

29:17

I'm kidding.

29:18

But I always throw

29:19

her under the bus up here.

29:20

I pay for it later.

29:22

So it's not like I go.

29:23

I come out of this unscathed.

29:25

I don't.

29:27

But anyway, but, you know,

29:29

I'm not into blood,

29:29

but, you know, this is

29:30

something that they should

29:31

abstain from.

29:32

But of course, it has so

29:33

much more significance

29:34

when we're reading it

29:35

to them back then.

29:39

Then to us now, perhaps,

29:41

perhaps, right?

29:42

So the first thing

29:43

and by the way,

29:44

James, if you read

29:45

when James was saying

29:47

I judge that we should do this,

29:49

the order was rearranged

29:50

when he wrote the letter.

29:52

So I don't know

29:53

if there's significance to that,

29:54

but it's a different order.

29:56

So I'm wondering if,

29:57

you know, the Lord gave him

29:59

an illumination,

30:01

made him realize that, oh, no,

30:02

this is what we should do.

30:04

But then as they sat down

30:05

to write the letter,

30:06

the Holy Spirit

30:07

helped them really sort this out

30:10

and bring it in a better format

30:13

and better order.

30:15

So whether there's a significance

30:16

to the order, I don't know.

30:18

But the first thing was things

30:21

or food offered to idols,

30:23

abstain from that.

30:25

Now, there's scripture

30:27

in the Old Testament that says

30:29

abstain from food

30:31

offered to idols.

30:33

Now, during this time,

30:34

there were temples

30:35

all over the place

30:36

to all kinds of Gods, OK,

30:39

mainly originating

30:40

from the Greek culture.

30:42

OK, and there are people

30:44

worshipping Gods.

30:46

And part of it, of course,

30:47

was bringing offerings.

30:49

OK, and by the way,

30:50

also drinking blood.

30:52

OK, and so forth.

30:53

So this was a part

30:54

of their worship.

30:56

OK, and so.

30:59

And so this is what they were doing.

31:01

And you can just take that

31:02

there for a second, sorry.

31:04

And it was it was

31:07

is to them, it was significant

31:10

and important, right,

31:12

to for the Gentiles,

31:14

because they offered offerings

31:17

to false Gods.

31:19

But really, they were demons.

31:22

OK, and they just didn't

31:24

even realize it.

31:25

So to them, what they were doing

31:27

naively was important to God.

31:30

And so let's read about that in

31:33

1 Corinthians 10.

31:36

If you can put that up.

31:37

Sorry about that.

31:37

I just told you to put it down.

31:38

Verse 20 to 21.

31:41

What do I imply, then?

31:43

That food offered to idols

31:45

is anything or then an idol

31:47

is anything? No.

31:48

I imply that what

31:50

pagan sacrifice they offer

31:53

to demons and not to God.

31:56

I do not want you to be

31:58

participants with demons.

32:00

You cannot drink the cup

32:02

of the Lord and a cup of demons.

32:04

You cannot partake

32:07

of the table of the Lord

32:08

and the table of demons.

32:11

So see, this was important to God.

32:14

Now, one might say, you know,

32:16

who cares?

32:17

It doesn't really have

32:17

any impact on me.

32:18

Well, that's true.

32:20

Unless you know about it

32:22

and unless the person you're with

32:24

knows about it

32:26

and it becomes a conscience thing.

32:29

OK, Paul goes on from there

32:31

in verse 23 to 25.

32:35

And he says,

32:37

all things are lawful,

32:38

but not all things are helpful.

32:41

All things are lawful,

32:42

but not all things build up.

32:44

Let no one seek his own good,

32:47

but the good of his neighbor.

32:50

Eat whatever is sold

32:51

in the meat market.

32:52

Now, remember, he just got done

32:53

saying it was offered to demons

32:55

and I don't want you to partake

32:56

anything with demons.

32:59

But now he's saying,

32:59

eat whatever is put in front of you.

33:01

All right, we're going to

33:02

reconcile that in a minute.

33:03

Eat whatever is sold in the market

33:05

without raising any question

33:07

on the ground of conscience.

33:10

And then the next slide,

33:12

verses 27 and 28.

33:15

If one of the unbelievers

33:17

invites you to dinner

33:18

and you are disposed to go,

33:20

eat whatever is set before you

33:23

without raising any question

33:25

on the ground of conscience.

33:27

There's that the ground

33:28

of conscience again.

33:30

But if someone says to you,

33:31

this has been offered to

33:34

in sacrifice, then do not eat it

33:38

for the sake of the one

33:39

who informed you

33:41

and for the sake of conscience.

33:45

And then finally, the last slide,

33:47

verses 31 to 33.

33:49

So whether you eat or drink

33:51

or whatever you do,

33:52

do all to the glory of God.

33:55

Give no offense to Jews

33:56

or to Greeks or to the Church of God.

33:59

Just as I try to please everyone

34:01

and everything I do,

34:03

not seeking my own advantage,

34:05

but that of many

34:07

that they may be saved.

34:09

So here he's saying, look,

34:12

if someone's offering you food

34:14

that has been

34:17

during worship to demons, OK,

34:20

but you don't know about it,

34:22

it's not going to have

34:22

any impact on you

34:23

because greater is he who is in me

34:25

than he who is in the world.

34:27

You know, all this idea of like,

34:29

well, you might have unknowingly

34:30

taken on a demon.

34:32

You know, I believe the only power

34:34

the evil one has upon us

34:37

is the power we surrender to him.

34:41

You're already covered

34:42

by the blood of Christ.

34:44

He says, I came to judge the enemy.

34:46

He has nothing in me

34:48

and we are in Christ.

34:50

So really, if you are in Christ,

34:51

you already have the dominating Holy Spirit

34:54

who has dominion over all other

34:57

spiritual realms, right?

34:59

So the enemy can't hijack you

35:01

unless you open the door,

35:03

say, come on in, right?

35:04

Because you are

35:06

you are a new creation.

35:08

The demons tremble

35:09

when you walk into the room

35:11

unless you don't know who you are

35:13

and who you are

35:15

and what your power and authority

35:17

is in this world, right?

35:19

And once you know

35:20

and you stand in that authority,

35:22

the enemy can't do anything, right?

35:25

So he's saying

35:25

it doesn't matter.

35:27

But now you're sitting there with someone

35:30

and they came out of this.

35:32

They might have been there

35:33

at one point when this food

35:34

was being offered, they say,

35:36

oh, by the way, before you eat this,

35:37

I should tell you

35:38

that it is offered

35:40

to the Goddess Artemis

35:43

or whatever it is, you know?

35:45

And you're like, oh.

35:47

All right, I'll pass

35:50

because you know

35:52

it matters to them.

35:54

It has no impact on you,

35:55

but it matters to them.

35:57

Now, if it matters to them,

35:58

it matters to you

36:00

because what we do

36:01

has an impact on everything, right?

36:04

And now it does matter.

36:07

You know, things don't matter

36:08

until they matter, right?

36:10

And I can give you an example of this.

36:14

So I was in Nicaragua

36:17

with the McRoberts on a missions trip

36:20

and Jill and I went to this cathedral

36:21

and it was the biggest cathedral

36:23

in Central America, actually.

36:26

And so we're there

36:26

and it's interesting.

36:30

I don't want to go there.

36:31

But anyway, so forget it.

36:34

Really, just never mind.

36:36

So anyway, we go outside

36:38

of the cathedral.

36:39

It was really cool.

36:40

And we're walking out

36:41

and there's these kids there

36:42

and they say, hey, do you want to,

36:43

you know, a lollipop?

36:44

And like, that's that's random.

36:46

But yeah, yeah, OK, sure.

36:48

So I was with these two other

36:50

Nicaraguan young guys, you know,

36:52

well, they're young,

36:52

they're 20, whatever.

36:54

And we're walking along.

36:55

And so, you know,

36:57

and so we start eating the lollipops

37:00

and suddenly they started saying,

37:03

yeah, that's part

37:04

of their atonement process.

37:06

They have to pay.

37:07

They have to pay penance

37:08

for their sins through good works.

37:12

And this is how they do it.

37:15

And I'm like, oh, whatever, you know.

37:17

So all of a sudden they

37:19

now they came out of this.

37:21

OK.

37:22

So they're walking along

37:23

and they're like,

37:25

yeah, you know, I really don't feel

37:26

good about eating this because

37:28

the person who gave it to us

37:30

thinks that they're working off

37:31

their sins as we're licking

37:32

on this lollipop.

37:33

Like I'm like, OK.

37:36

Well, listen and say, yeah,

37:37

we're not going to eat this.

37:38

I'm thinking, well, then

37:39

neither am I going to eat this?

37:41

You see, because it's it's it is.

37:42

It matters because it matters

37:45

to them because it used to be in that.

37:48

It matters to the kids that gave them

37:50

that maybe it would be better

37:51

if we knew and said, you know,

37:53

oh, no, no, no, no, you know,

37:55

only Jesus Christ pays for your sins.

37:57

Giving us a lollipop

37:57

isn't going to do it, you know.

37:59

But so but so I can see this,

38:03

you know, this connection,

38:05

you know, because it matters, you know.

38:09

There's so many examples

38:10

that they use a lot of times

38:11

this whole example with alcohol.

38:14

You know, you can have

38:15

a glass of wine and have, you know,

38:18

and not be intoxicated.

38:20

Two glasses of wine, maybe spread out

38:22

over whatever time and be fine.

38:25

You know, and there's, you know,

38:26

nothing like biblically

38:28

wrong with alcohol, right?

38:30

And wine, so forth. Right.

38:32

I mean, that was Jesus's first miracle.

38:36

I think if he was going to say

38:37

this is evil, he wouldn't have made

38:40

that his first miracle.

38:41

All right. Yeah.

38:42

If if if it is, then I can't wait

38:45

to ask him about that

38:46

when I get there.

38:47

You know, I don't understand that.

38:48

But anyway, so

38:50

and we see again and again,

38:51

you know, he's drinking the cup,

38:53

take this cup communion.

38:56

Why? And by the way,

38:57

wine was the same word,

38:58

whether it was the process

38:59

of the musk that is being developed

39:02

into fermentation or the fermentation.

39:05

So it's too vague

39:06

to really sort out,

39:07

oh, that wasn't really whatever.

39:10

But it was probably weaker back then.

39:12

But anyway, so drinking. Right.

39:14

So you can have a glass of wine now.

39:17

You're going to your family function

39:21

and your dad is there

39:23

and he is an ex alcoholic

39:25

or maybe still is an alcoholic.

39:28

And you look at him

39:29

and you think about

39:31

all the pain and sorrow

39:32

it's caused him, his family,

39:36

your family.

39:38

And you're thinking

39:40

this means way more

39:42

to him than it does to me.

39:44

I can do without.

39:47

I don't need this.

39:48

I don't need this glass of wine

39:49

or this beer.

39:50

It's not important to me.

39:53

Right. It's just not because

39:55

am I my brother's keeper?

39:57

Well, you're not his keeper,

39:59

but you're his supporter.

40:00

Right. I mean, we're all parts

40:02

of the body of Christ,

40:03

we're tendons, ligaments.

40:04

I care about how they perceive things.

40:08

I don't want to be a stumbling block.

40:10

Right. I want to be.

40:12

I want to encourage them

40:13

and support them.

40:14

I don't want to be an obstacle

40:15

to their walk in Christ.

40:17

That's the idea.

40:19

Another quick example

40:20

and you could do it.

40:21

This is your whatever you may.

40:23

But but I remember this worship leader,

40:26

Cory Asbury, you know,

40:27

and he sings some songs.

40:29

We we sing and all that.

40:31

But so he was

40:33

he was performing

40:36

and he had nail polish on.

40:38

And, you know, I don't care.

40:41

I just don't care.

40:42

But some people had a problem with it,

40:45

you know, and so his thing was,

40:47

well, my three daughters polished my nails.

40:51

And that's why I'm wearing nail polish.

40:54

Well, how many hours ago or days ago?

40:57

And that was your excuse last time.

40:59

But I don't really care.

41:01

I don't care when I say I really don't care.

41:03

But in the wake of transgenderism,

41:08

of cross-dressing,

41:10

of all the filth that's out there

41:12

and you're leading worship.

41:14

I don't care if you do that at home.

41:16

I don't care if you do it when you go out.

41:17

But you're leading worship

41:19

for the Church of God.

41:24

Is it important?

41:25

Like, do you have to have nail polish on

41:28

and then defend it?

41:29

No, no, it's like nothing I do

41:33

is that important that I can't just give it up

41:35

if it's causing someone to stumble.

41:38

What is that, pride or arrogance?

41:40

No, I fight for my right to wear nail polish.

41:45

How dare you step in between me and my nail polish?

41:48

Like, it's just dumb, isn't it?

41:50

Even when you say it.

41:51

Is it that important?

41:53

Whatever we do, is it that important

41:55

if it's causing someone else to stumble?

41:58

And that's what this is all about.

41:59

Paul is just saying,

42:00

this stuff is not conducive

42:02

to living a life of Christ

42:04

and it's going to tear people down.

42:07

And I think we could take the same,

42:09

the same message for us in our lives,

42:13

maybe not in that same exact application,

42:16

but in other ways, just say, you know what?

42:18

I don't need it.

42:19

I don't need it enough

42:20

if I'm going to cause someone else to stumble.

42:23

And then if you could put up that slide again,

42:27

you know, that was food.

42:28

We're not going to dig into all of them,

42:30

but like the blood and, you know, the blood.

42:32

What's the matter with drinking blood?

42:33

Well, the Lord commanded Noah,

42:35

don't drink the blood of animals.

42:36

Okay.

42:38

The only drink we blood,

42:40

we symbolically drink is what?

42:42

The blood of Christ, that's pure.

42:45

That is pure.

42:47

That's the perfect vintage, right?

42:50

It's eternal vintage, right?

42:52

You look on the label, eternity,

42:55

the alpha and the omega.

42:56

That's the blood that we drink, right?

42:59

Right.

43:00

But the blood, you know, carries with it pathogens,

43:03

bacteria, disease.

43:04

I don't know why people would want to drink raw blood,

43:08

but it's so prevalent in the occult,

43:11

in the actions and practices

43:13

of the old paganistic religions.

43:15

That's why God said, don't drink it.

43:17

It's harmful for you physically

43:20

and it's harmful for you spiritually

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because you're looking like the rest of the pagans.

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Well, now he's saying, no, keep this.

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Keep this.

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Not for salvation, but so that you will do well, right?

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And then animals strangled, same thing, really.

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You're eating an animal that died with all its blood.

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You're cutting it open.

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All the blood's in there, the same type of thing.

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But let's go to sexual immorality.

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You know, that's, for everything,

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that is always going to be the downfall.

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Sexual immorality is always wrong.

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And it's just, it's wrong, actually,

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just for society, for humanity, put away faith.

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But for following Jesus Christ,

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you can't be sexually immoral.

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And that covers all kinds, a multitude of sins, right?

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Adultery, fornication, sex outside of marriage,

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homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals,

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sexual intercourse with close relatives,

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sexual intercourse with a divorced man or woman.

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And we're not gonna get into marriage

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and divorce and all that today.

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But it's always wrong, okay?

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Because it's always the downfall.

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And it's really partnering with the evil one

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when we start to engage in any of those things.

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And you know, these cultures had pedophilia.

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It was just like part of their practice, you know?

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I mean, it's sick.

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And the Lord just wanted to get rid, society, of this.

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So it's just always wrong.

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He says, don't do that.

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You might think it's okay for you to be sleeping around

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with your daughter, you're sick of them.

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I'm sorry, that slipped out.

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That's from me, not God, okay?

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But it's not, put it away, stop it, right?

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Because it's evil and wicked, sexual immorality,

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any kind is just wrong, right?

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And so this is still wrong.

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In fact, in Revelation, the two churches

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that Jesus speaks to, Thyatira and Pergamos,

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if you can recall, he says,

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but this I have against you.

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You teach people to offer sacrifices to idols,

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in other words, demons, knowingly,

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and you practice sexual immorality.

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So that was embedded in the church.

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And he said this, I have against you.

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If you don't knock it off, I'm gonna put you out.

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I'm gonna snuff out your candle, your lamp.

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And so in closing, and if the worship team

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can start to come forward,

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what are some takeaways that we can glean from this?

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And I always like an application

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and maybe the Lord has already given you other ones.

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You could be saying,

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Chris, you missed the biggest thing of all.

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Share it with me later, I'd love to,

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because I want that.

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I want the Lord to show you things.

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I love when people come up to me at the end and say,

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you know what, and some one little word I said

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about something that was sort of unrelated,

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and that's the thing they latched onto.

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I'm like, oh really, wow, okay, yeah, it's good.

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Because we want the Holy Spirit to be using the word of God

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to bring forward something specific to you, amen.

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And so, but here's some things,

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don't put a yoke on someone else's neck.

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Well, how do we do that?

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Okay, well, whether it be your freedom

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or your conscience.

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So, you see someone, oh, did you see them drinking?

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Now, to me, I think it's right to,

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if you're gonna bring someone else down,

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as else we've shared, to just abstain, right?

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But if you're the person who can walk in Christ

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and you're not addicted to anything, never wire nothing,

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and then all of a sudden,

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you're judging someone for having a beer.

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And you're like, you know, you're trying to put a yoke,

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your yoke on them, like you're judging them,

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whether it would be good for them or bad for them,

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that's between them and God, but that's a yoke, right?

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You know, you're still, in a sense,

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held captive to that, and maybe you should be,

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maybe it's right for you, right?

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But for your conscience, that's your conscience,

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you don't have to make it their conscience, right?

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So don't put a yoke on their neck.

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But for your freedom, for your,

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I can wear nail polish if I want.

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If I wear a nail polish next Sunday, okay, I don't know,

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you're probably gonna stone me, but I won't, I won't.

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But when you think about it,

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like why should my freedom become a yoke for someone else?

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Like, I can't, I just can't process this.

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How could this be the right thing, you know?

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And there's so many churches going haywire

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into all kind of debauchery, right?

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Saying, well, we can legal, well, we're,

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you're gonna have to reinvent scripture

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if you're gonna condone this, okay?

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You're just gonna have to restructure things, right?

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Because it's obviously not okay.

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The next thing, avoid knowingly doing things

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that will prevent you from doing well.

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Remember when God said to Cain, why are you downcast?

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Don't you know if you do well, you will be accepted.

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He didn't do well, he didn't do well.

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But otherwise sin is crouching at the door.

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You know, sin is crouching at the door

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if we keep stepping in things

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that we are supposed to abstain from, you know?

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Does it mean you're not saved anymore?

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No, it's not like you're getting going to hell

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because you're doing that,

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but you're certainly not going to live a fruitful life.

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I'm just saying.

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If you're in any of these sins, you know,

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like sexual immorality,

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if you're held captive by pornography,

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by sex outside of marriage,

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like you might not think it's matters, it does.

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It's weighing you down.

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It's a burden.

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You're not able to think clearly or to serve clearly.

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And he's abstain from it, be cleansed from it, right?

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Don't knowingly continue to do those things.

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And then finally, number three,

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be conscience of conscience, yours and others.

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In other words, just, you know,

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if someone else has a conscience

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that that just really burdens, do you have to do it?

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Is it going to change your time that much

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that if you insist on doing that

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and not insist on doing something else?

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Like, can't you just give it up?

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Isn't it worth it?

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You know, Paul said,

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I've become all things to all people

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so that I might save some.

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We can give it up.

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It's not a big deal, right?

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Or do it in, you know, if it's Godly,

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do it in other environments.

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But, you know, dancing, you know,

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dancing used to be a thing.

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I think in Jill's old church, you cannot dance, right?

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Well, you can dance.

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You can't dance certain ways.

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You shouldn't wear certain things when you dance, right?

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You know, because dance can certainly muster up

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a lot of lustful thoughts and attitudes and so forth.

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But like David danced in his underwear.

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Now we're not going to go there today.

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I don't know.

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I think it was long and modest, but still weird.

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But like dancing was certainly Godly, right?

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Dancing was Godly, right?

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Again, not seductive and lustful dancing

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and all that stuff, but dancing was okay.

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I know someone who actually left our church

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because we had drums, okay?

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He just couldn't get over it.

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And his wife couldn't get over it

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because of her background with some baggage and things.

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And, you know, the beat, the uplifting music

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to her and to them just reminded them of so much.

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I'm like, then God bless you.

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You shouldn't.

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You should go where you're able to serve.

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And we don't want to be an obstacle for you.

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So if you come here and that's doing that to you,

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then serve somewhere else.

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And we love you and we're not going to try to fix you.

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I don't want to fix anybody.

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You know, the Holy Spirit does what he does.

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And there are different cultures in the church,

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you know, of all kinds.

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And, you know, some are different than others.

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It doesn't mean they're wrong.

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And we have to fix someone.

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So why don't we all stand up?

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Father God, we ask you Lord, if we're doing something in our lives

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that maybe is insensitive or becoming an obstacle

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to someone else, Lord.

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Lord, help us see how meaningless it is.

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It's just food.

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It's just drink.

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It just doesn't even matter, Lord,

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if it's a burden to someone else, we want them to thrive, Lord.

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And Lord, if there's an area that we are maybe holding on to traditions,

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holding on to patterns that we've been taught that are God

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and it's only this way, Lord God,

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may we not lay that yoke on someone else and say,

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you need to do it this way because, Lord, that's their walk.

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And who are we to judge them for their walk?

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So Lord, help us be your hands and feet.

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Help us be your ministers, your messengers.

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Lord God, not our own.

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And help us just lift others up and exhort them,

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edify them, motivate them, and be Barnabas' sons of encouragement to others, Lord.

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We ask this in Jesus' name, amen.

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Let's give the Lord a round of applause. Hallelujah.

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